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Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« on: August 22, 2007, 02:16:27 PM »
     Does anybody have any poem that Sissi wrote?  Or do you create yoursel a poem about her? Please post them , it will be very nice to read them.
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Re: Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 05:10:07 AM »
You can find a lot of poem from Sisi in books about her or her husband Franz Joseph and another books about habsburgs.
Most of books what I have, aren't written in english and for me is quite difficult to translate is.
But I can give on example from 'Lonely Empress' by Joan Haslip. Elisabeth wrote it short time after her wedding.
Her verses sounds very sad and nostalgic and she longs for freedom, how she wrote:

Oh that I had not left the way
That would to freedom me have led,
Oh that I had not gone astray
On vanity's broad path instead.

Now in a prison cell I wake
The hands are bound that once were free
The longing grows that naught can slake
And freedom thou hast turned from me.

But I read lot of more interesting poems from her. I must admit, that is realy very funny to read her jeering, ironical
verses about members of habsburds family or people in her surroundings. For example verses about her brothers in low-
Ludwig Victor and Karl Ludwig, witch she didn't like. What I know from habsburg family she liked only her husband and
her brother in low Ferdinand Maximilian.
Or a lot of jeering verses about Katharina Schratt- friend of Franz Joseph and their walking in Shonbrunn's gardens...
Or about her daughter in low Stephanie, for who she wasn't good mother in low and she disliked her. Although She herself
complaind about her mother in low-Sophia.
 

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 05:39:36 AM »
Well said Princess Susan! I could not have given a better description. I can just add that Empress Elisabeth based her poetry on that of her idol, Heinrich Heine (1797-1856) and in fact seemed to believe that her poems were dictated to her by Heine himself. However, the comparison ends there, as while Heine's wit and irony were sharp and elegant, Elisabeth could not measure up to his standards (very few could!) and tended to be ponderous and heavy. Not many authors have actually studied Elisabeth's poetry in any detail (Brigitte Hamann being one of the few), but it is an interesting exercise, as it sheds a great deal of light on Elisabeth's character etc.

Here is another quotation, which may be a continuation of the poem quoted by Princess Susan above (at any rate it was written at around the same time, shortly after Elisabeth's marriage) "Farewell you quiet rooms, Farewell you ancient castle, Those first dreams of love, They rest beneath the waters of the lake".

Elisabeth stopped writing poetry after the death of Crown Prince Rudolf in 1889.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 11:57:11 AM »
     Did anyone have photos of Heine ? I need them for a school project.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2007, 04:20:47 PM »
To the best of my knowledge there is only ONE photo of Heinrich Heine in existence, a daguerreotype taken in 1848. Heine became ill and bed-ridden that same year and spent the last eight years of his life in what he termed "the mattress crypt" thus no more photos were taken. However, there are many different drawings and paintings of him in his younger years (plus one or two of him during his fatal illness), including the famous painting by Moritz Daniel Oppenheim, which was executed in early 1831 in Frankfurt when Heine was passing through Frankfurt on his way to Paris. I have no idea how to post photos, paintings etc, but if you search on the Internet you should have absolutely no problem finding an image (photo, painting or drawing) of Heinrich Heine.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 05:04:29 PM »
     Does anybody have any poem that Sissi wrote?  Or do you create yoursel a poem about her? Please post them , it will be very nice to read them.

I´m afraid reading of poems written by Sissi is not very nice. I have read a lot of them in very good biography of Sisssi by Brigitte Hamann. Sissi was not a good poet. Her poems are very long, boring and naive. And sometimes very severe to members of Habsburg dynasty.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 01:42:00 AM »
I have seen the poems of her in the book by Hamann, but haven't studied them very thoroughty yet, so I'll have a look. Maybe it was her way of working out the things that concerned her mind, so they don't have to be good like a poet...
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Re: Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2007, 01:42:34 PM »
And sometimes very severe to members of Habsburg dynasty.

Haha - yes. Those vitriolic poems . . . quite interesting.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's epistolary - poems/letters...
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 01:59:41 PM »
Well i'm sorry if there was such a topic but i always have been wonder....Are there some letters which she wrote? And i always knew she wrote poetry... i wonder is the poetry kept somewhere?
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 02:56:32 PM »
I've heard her poetry has been published. I can't recall when but it has been published, I have several fragments in a novel about her and in my 2 biography's, in German.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 03:06:23 PM »
If you find letters or something will ypu post?
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 03:42:32 PM »
I will. Give me a week and I'll get some. Probably it are only quotes, and a few whole poems and letters. I'll try and post some by next monday. Have to translate them first, and since my German isn't that well I need to be sure they're correct ;)
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 04:25:44 PM »
I will go to the library and look if there are letters of her... and i will copy and post here... kind of illegal i think :D
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2009, 09:23:06 AM »
Her poetry has been published by Brigitte Hamman, Das poetische tagebuch der Kaiserin elisabeth.
this poetry she made in her later years..

you can buy it on amazon.de but its only in german..


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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2009, 09:30:27 AM »
Thank you i use to study German... hope to understand it....
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