Re: Princess Diana - Part 2

[ashdean]

I hope not - he is ghastly!!!

Never a truer word said Eddie!
The Earl is also a total hypocrite.

[timfromengland]

yes , I think if I was a rich as the Earl with all that land and property, Id have
a harem of women at my beck and call.... why not ?

I mean look at the Marquess of Bath with his wifelets ! they re all at it !

[Constantinople]

yes Lord Bath is a very interesting person.  He should change his name to the Marquis of Hottub.

[timfromengland]

Maybe we need a new sub-section............. Aristos.....
and the Marquis could get his own thread in there !
some of the Aristos are more interesting ( and outrageous ) than the Royals !

[Lindelle]

They can be, they're not in the media as much as the Royals, they're just RICH.

[Eddie_uk]

I hope not - he is ghastly!!!

Never a truer word said Eddie!
The Earl is also a total hypocrite.

I agree 100% ashdean!!! All that nonsense he spouted at Diana's funeral. What a nerve!

[Margot]

Am I missing something here? Why is Earl Spencer regarded as such a pariah?

[timfromengland]

Looking at Harry, I used to think ....  could be the son of the red haired James Hewitt...
but seeing a photo of  Harry together with  his uncle the  Earl   (and  Dianas brother.... )
they look so alike....

 hes obviously got a lot more of the Spencer genes (red hair etc )
than William.... who like Diana is probably genetically more on the  Roche  side of things.

[Grace]

Charles Spencer was accused of both physical and emotional abuse of his first wife causing her to suffer anorexia and addiction problems.  He left his second wife when their child was just four months old and was said to be a "serial adulterer" during both marriages.  His ex-girlfriends, and there are many, many of them, don't seem to have fond memories of him either.  He is regarded as a bit of a "cad" I think.

[timfromengland]

Edmund Roche....  father of  Frances,  Grandfather of  Lady Di...

basically an  American  guy..............

[Rani]

Did Diana really said that Harry would be the better King?
I think she was right.

Ah, and Charles Spencer: awkward.

[Eddie_uk]

Am I missing something here? Why is Earl Spencer regarded as such a pariah?

He wasn't there for Diana when she needed him. Long story but following her divorce, when she wanted some time out She asked her brother for a cottage on his estate to retreat too, he agreed and then changed his mind, I think complaining of the press intrusion. Apparently Diana was very hurt about his.
Infact where they on speaking terms even when she died??? I know she was not on speaking terms with her mother about something she said in an article about Diana losing her title.

[timfromengland]

Shows how people can be deluded... Diana wanted a cottage on the estate...
as a bolthole... but her evil brother refused...

In fact the actual story is that the demanding Diana wanted one of the prime
properties on the estate  and when  the Earl refused to give in to her  wishes
she went off in a  huff.
   He was quite prepared to  give or lend her one of the properties on the estate
but Diana... as always,  wanted the very best.

[Eddie_uk]

Who's deluded?

I'm not blind to Dianas faults but that sounds unlikely.

Diane Her True Story by Richard Kay & Diana by Anne Edwards are my sources, what are yours?

[Margot]

Charles Spencer was accused of both physical and emotional abuse of his first wife causing her to suffer anorexia and addiction problems.  He left his second wife when their child was just four months old and was said to be a "serial adulterer" during both marriages.  His ex-girlfriends, and there are many, many of them, don't seem to have fond memories of him either.  He is regarded as a bit of a "cad" I think.

Okey Dokey Thanks for clarifying Grace and Eddie! The fallout from his marriages does go some way to reveal the more repellant and less attractive aspects of the Earl's character, but the issue of providing a house at Althorp as a bolt hole seems a tad more complicated. I am not defending the Earl as I do not know the full details of what occurred, but the logistics of having probably the most famous woman in the world living on his property and the security considerations and logistics involved when trying to run a stately home as a viable business open to the public, seems to me a little daunting to say the least! I just think that in the case of the 'bolt hole' there were no doubt two sides to this story and it is a shame that Lord Spencer's side does not appear to have been given fair hearing! I always thought that the security issues and balancing privacy and logistics were his prime concern! Perhaps someone here who knows the facts will be able to throw light on this issue!