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Offline LisaDavidson

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« Reply #240 on: December 05, 2007, 06:16:24 PM »
Years ago, right after I married my husband, I said in earshot of his father something like, "it doesn't take a rocket scientist..". And of course the dear man pointed out he was a rocket scientist, and part of the Apollo team and everything else space wise through the space shuttle. My father in law gets quite upset when anyone says that the moon landings were a fraud - because he spent a big chunk of his career on the space program. I still tell him, "Dad, I know how you feel - there will always still be people who believe that Anastasia didn't die with her family".

Yes, there are no neat and tidy endings, but for many of us, the conclusive proof will come with the forensic analysis of the 2007 remains.

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« Reply #241 on: January 12, 2008, 06:53:15 AM »
well, I get new information about new found remains......Boy died in age 12-14 years ??? they first said boys remains 'died' at age 10-13, and they also said(first) female's remains died at age 18-23 years, but now in 17-19 years old? what is that? where is Margarita, help me!
also, boys height is 142/3 cm-really don t know how much it is in inches, girl's height was ca. 160 cm-Nicholas was ca. 165, and, againg mistakes about Imperial heights....Can someone help me, please?
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« Reply #242 on: January 12, 2008, 07:32:11 AM »
It's not long until the DNA results are released. A recent article said it should happen next month.

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« Reply #243 on: January 12, 2008, 10:14:07 AM »
It's not long until the DNA results are released. A recent article said it should happen next month.

DNA and Hemophilia will be a definite result to convince anyone those are Alexei remains.

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« Reply #244 on: January 12, 2008, 10:55:17 AM »
It's not long until the DNA results are released. A recent article said it should happen next month.

DNA and Hemophilia will be a definite result to convince anyone those are Alexei remains.

It will never convince supporters of Anna Anderson and Heino Tammet who will continue to say the results were switched/rigged/falsified.

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« Reply #245 on: January 12, 2008, 11:14:20 AM »
Nicholas was ca. 165,/quote]
Nikolai was only 165cm tall?!
To me, he looked more imposive on photos...

And anyways, I'm waiting forward to the final report about the 2 remains found.
I was watching TV when I heard that the 2 missing Romanovs had been possibly found. And that lead me to study the subject again.
('cuz it's been a loooong time since looked up for Romanovs news ^^)

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« Reply #246 on: May 01, 2008, 09:13:24 AM »
Pending the final report at the end of the month, it looks like this is it, as today's Pravda internet edition publishes, the remains are those of the Heir and G.D. Mariya Nikolaevna  http://www.pravda.ru/news/society/30-04-2008/266101-romanovi-0 .

I think that we will see another imperial burial exactly on the anniversary of the massacre.

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« Reply #247 on: May 02, 2008, 01:56:55 PM »
HELLO!
"According to scientists from the University of Massachusetts in the U.S, DNA tests have shown bone fragments exuhumed in central Russia belong to children of the late Russian Tsar Nicolas II. They are said to be from the heirs, Prince Alexei and his sister Maria.
Mystery or coincidence?

The announcement comes on the same day as a fire broke out in a monastery in the Ganina Yama area in Yekaterinburg, where the remains of the Tsar and his family were discovered.

It took two hours for 20 firefighters to bring the blaze under control. It spread over 300 square metres, although no-one is believed to have been injured.

The second floor of the monastery's shop, which has burned down completely, housed a museum of the history of the tsar's family and Russian Orthodox warriors. It contained pictures of the family, a model of the house where the Romanovs were killed, icons, books, and old military uniforms.

The cause of the incident is not yet known."

 I just read this new in www.russiantoday.ru
I am really very happy with this new. Finally they can rest in peace.

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« Reply #248 on: June 19, 2008, 09:00:36 AM »
Years ago, right after I married my husband, I said in earshot of his father something like, "it doesn't take a rocket scientist..". And of course the dear man pointed out he was a rocket scientist, and part of the Apollo team and everything else space wise through the space shuttle. My father in law gets quite upset when anyone says that the moon landings were a fraud - because he spent a big chunk of his career on the space program. I still tell him, "Dad, I know how you feel - there will always still be people who believe that Anastasia didn't die with her family".

Yes, there are no neat and tidy endings, but for many of us, the conclusive proof will come with the forensic analysis of the 2007 remains.

Wow, I never put two and two toeghter like that before. It makes perfect sence now how people still belived Anna Andeson was the Grand Duschess.

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« Reply #249 on: June 19, 2008, 09:11:57 AM »
It is time they opened the tomb of Alexander III to get his DNA.

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« Reply #250 on: June 19, 2008, 09:20:28 AM »
It is time they opened the tomb of Alexander III to get his DNA.

I think that's against there religion though. I think, I could be mistaking. Also there still alive relatives that could provide for DNA.

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« Reply #251 on: June 19, 2008, 09:21:55 AM »
I'm amazed that Alexander III's remains were allowed to remain intact during the Revolution, unlike Rasputin's.

Hopefully there will be a large state funeral on 17 July, with Prince Michael of Kent again representing Great Britain.

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« Reply #252 on: June 19, 2008, 03:41:17 PM »
I'm amazed that Alexander III's remains were allowed to remain intact during the Revolution, unlike Rasputin's.

Hopefully there will be a large state funeral on 17 July, with Prince Michael of Kent again representing Great Britain.

Such occasions tend to be costly and take a great deal of time to plan. I'm not expecting anything this year.

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« Reply #253 on: June 19, 2008, 04:08:06 PM »
As has been mentioned,  exhumation is against Church  teaching.  It would be a very long process as well as a decision from the highest authority. Anyway, they already have the DNA from  Nicholas' brother, G.D. George, which was like pulling teeth to get. I doubt that the Church would go any further.
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« Reply #254 on: March 30, 2009, 12:43:11 AM »
The identification of Alexei and one of his sisters as the skeletons in the second grave was confirmed in the last couple of weeks by publication of two different scientific DNA studies, one carried out by Russian forensic scientists, the other by an independent American group from the US Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory.

The new American study is entitled "Mystery Solved: The Identification of the Two Missing Romanov Children Using DNA Analysis." It can be read at
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0004838
The abstract reads as follows:
One of the greatest mysteries for most of the twentieth century was the fate of the Romanov family, the last Russian monarchy. Following the abdication of Tsar Nicholas II, he and his wife, Alexandra, and their five children were eventually exiled to the city of Yekaterinburg. The family, along with four loyal members of their staff, was held captive by members of the Ural Soviet. According to historical reports, in the early morning hours of July 17, 1918 the entire family along with four loyal members of their staff was executed by a firing squad. After a failed attempt to dispose of the remains in an abandoned mine shaft, the bodies were transported to an open field only a few kilometers from the mine shaft. Nine members of the group were buried in one mass grave while two of the children were buried in a separate grave. With the official discovery of the larger mass grave in 1991, and subsequent DNA testing to confirm the identities of the Tsar, the Tsarina, and three of their daughters – doubt persisted that these remains were in fact those of the Romanov family. In the summer of 2007, a group of amateur archeologists discovered a collection of remains from the second grave approximately 70 meters from the larger grave. We report forensic DNA testing on the remains discovered in 2007 using mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), autosomal STR, and Y- STR testing. Combined with additional DNA testing of material from the 1991 grave, we have virtually irrefutable evidence that the two individuals recovered from the 2007 grave are the two missing children of the Romanov family: the Tsarevich Alexei and one of his sisters.