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Offline Michael HR

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2008, 08:39:58 AM »
She has fans....

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2008, 09:02:38 AM »
Well...All the daughters-in-law of Queen Mary weren't born Royal except Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent...

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2008, 09:47:44 AM »
Well...All the daughters-in-law of Queen Mary weren't born Royal except Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent...

i agree but they were born into privilaged families- lady elizabeth boews-lyon, lady alice montague-douglas-scott................but mrs wallis simpson?

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #63 on: July 28, 2008, 11:10:53 AM »
I think Edward VIII for me. Selfish and no concept of duty. Put himself before all other matters and did great damage to the Crown. But of course we got George VI who must be one of the best Kings we have had in a while, and of course his daughter.

Henry VIII for the damage he did to the contry and the Church, some of which continues to this day. Again selfish.

Charles Prince of Wales also strikes me as selfish and self centered. Not sure he will make a good king or not we shall have to see so long as his wife is not crowned Queen.


Thank Henry VIII for ridding us from the clutches of Rome...mind you I love looking at the genealogies of all those merry old Popes with their bastards and grasping families.  Charles III ( George VII)  will be an excellent King and I hope that he will be able to have his wife crowned with him as our Queen!








 

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #64 on: July 28, 2008, 10:03:37 PM »
Well...Wallis had aristocratic ancestors too...She actually related to Cookie. Read "Royal Feud" by Michael Thronton.

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2008, 03:47:30 AM »
 yeah, she was a courtesan. All she really wanted was a little flat in Chelsea and a private income. He was the fool who wouldn't play the game

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2008, 04:22:23 AM »
Adding to my list- Peter III, Christian VII and Fred. Wilhem I
 This should make my 10.

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2008, 04:54:36 AM »
yeah, she was a courtesan. All she really wanted was a little flat in Chelsea and a private income. He was the fool who wouldn't play the game
Well...Wallis had aristocratic ancestors too...She actually related to Cookie. Read "Royal Feud" by Michael Thronton.

thanks i will look at them now.
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also i dislike george V for not letting IF stay in the UK.
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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2008, 07:02:59 AM »

Personally i'd put George V pretty high on my list of "successful" monarchs - his arch conservatism was probably the one thing that helped ensure that the British Monarchy survived the aftermath of the first world war and the social upheaval of the twenties - i won't go into the issue around asylum for Nicholas II and his immediate family as its been discussed elsewhere although he had sound reasons for it.  As to the rest of the family - Xenia received financial support and a home from George V, George VI and Elizabeth II until her death and she remained on good and friendly terms with George V, Queen Mary and Princess Victoria until their deaths, George V also paid a not insignificant pension to the Dowager Empress until her death - to be fair George V in financial terms did more than any of their other royal relations and Xenia and her mother were included in British Royal occassions throughout the twenties.  Xenia was still attending and being invited to events into the 1950's. 
It is worth bearing in mind that the only surviving Romanov's closely related to George V were Grand Duchess George (Greek Minny - 1st cousin - born Princess Marie of Greece), Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna (1st Cousin), the Empress Dowager (aunt) and Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna (1st cousin).




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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2008, 07:15:06 AM »
Well said mcdnab!

Tom, you are mistaken, George V made every effort for the IF.
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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2008, 08:00:51 AM »
in reply to mcdnab and Eddieboy_uk,
i know that george was a succsesful and good monarch who did a lot to bring our country through ww1 and i know he was worried that if the tsar Nicholas came here because he sparked outrage in his country it might happen here aswell  but i just dislike how he backed out at the last minute. :(
but i agree with you both he was a good monarch

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2008, 08:40:53 AM »
Tom i appreciate that with hindsight most of us would think he should have moved heaven and earth to rescue his cousin - two points on this though - once rumours broke in Petrograd that the British had offered him asylum certain Duma members insisted that the provisional government guaranteed that the family would remain in Russia making it quite difficult for Kerensky to get them out, the foreign office telegram concerning the offer and the King's reaction are available on line - i discussed them in posts to this discussion http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=11224.0 if you want to have a glance.  He might have put his throne before his family, and he was a pretty appalling father but he wouldn't make my top ten.

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2008, 10:22:12 AM »
thanks mcdnab i'll look at that link now. george isnt in my top ten-i dont have one, sometime i just dislike one factor about a character. i cant really say i dislike them on the whole or hate them because i wasn't there so how would i know what they were like- i just heard stories.
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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2008, 11:12:23 AM »
Well...George V was also related to Grand Duke Dimitri and Maria Paulovna the younger through their mother (Alexandra of Greece, Grand Duchess Paul). Greek Minny's 2 daughters, Princess Xenia and Nina of Russia. Also Ducky's children ( Vladimir, Marshka and Kyra) were also related to him...

I don't dislike Wilhelm I. He was actually a puppet of Bismark. He was actually quite flirtatious and kind to the ladies. Vicky saw with jealousy how delighted her father-in-law was to meet her gentle sister Alice and beautiful sister-in-law Alix of Denmark.

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Re: Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why Pt II
« Reply #74 on: July 29, 2008, 11:42:41 AM »
Well...George V was also related to Grand Duke Dimitri and Maria Paulovna the younger through their mother (Alexandra of Greece, Grand Duchess Paul). Greek Minny's 2 daughters, Princess Xenia and Nina of Russia. Also Ducky's children ( Vladimir, Marshka and Kyra) were also related to him...

I don't dislike Wilhelm I. He was actually a puppet of Bismark. He was actually quite flirtatious and kind to the ladies. Vicky saw with jealousy how delighted her father-in-law was to meet her gentle sister Alice and beautiful sister-in-law Alix of Denmark.

i never thought about him being bismarks puppet  :-\ but i heard he was bad to his mother