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Naslednik Norvezhskiy

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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2010, 05:06:08 PM »
I think what makes the rooms of the Alexander Palace look so un-cozy is how lost and out of place the rather random bourgeois furniture and the Victorian knick-knacks look in those large, palatial rooms. They might have made a smaller place, like a villa, look quite cluttered, but cozy in that warm, fuzzy bourgeois sense which seems to be lacking in the AP.
I also find the way the paintings are hung rather odd, looks rather temporary with the long strings down from the ceilings visible.
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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2010, 07:09:21 AM »
Wow! I wish I could live in a palace! So beautiful, so BIG! NVM if it's a little creepy...................
But, it would be hard to clean, and I could get lost and there wouls be ghosts too.. So I prefer my home sweet home ! XD

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« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2010, 11:47:25 AM »
I imagine that the kind of home the Imperial Family wanted (and sought to create in the vast halls of the Alexander Palace) was the kind of chintz-covered, knick-knack-filled, arch-Victorian interiors (from the 1880s) that you can visit in the museum villa Breidablikk next to the Norwegian RF's residence Ledaal in Stavanger, Western Norway: Herring Merchant, Ship Owner, British Vice-Consul, Mayor, Bank Director, Member of Parliament and Knight of the Order of Saint Olav, Lars Berentsen's home Breidablikk.

Or Gamlehaugen, the current royal residence in Bergen, built ca. 1900 as the châteauesque villa of the "Kingmaker of 1905", ship owner and Prime Minister Christian Michelsen, in Bergen: See  the interiors here
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2010, 04:12:04 AM »
When I played polo, part of the circuit was Palm Beach.  When I stayed there, I was usually billeted by someone with a large mansion.One that i  remember was about 30 rooms on 3  floors. My room was the size of a large 2 bedroom apartment with a bathroom and a dressing room. After the initial agoraphobia, the room seemed normal and when I returned  to Houston, I had to readjust to a smaller accomodation.   If you are raised in that environment, you are already accustomed to it and if you are a monarch, there is sense of entitlement, given the fact that  your family owns it.  Even Lenin had no problem taking over palaces for his personal use.We can assume he had no problem living in one by the fact that he didnt leave until he died.
   The Imperial  Family had about 15,000 servants split between their various palaces so we can assume that they weren't responsibleforany of the upkeep or maintenance.  So life was easy.

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2010, 08:12:27 AM »
I think it pertinent to remember that the Imperial Family like almost all Royal Families and members of the aristocracy who lived and still live in Palaces and country homes tend to actually 'live' in private apartments which are made up of practically sized rooms and that the larger state rooms are only utilized when necessary and not generally used like private rooms! For example, the Mauve boudoir can hardly be called cavernous and the present Queen's private sitting room at Buckingham Palace is not exactly enormous nor do any of the private apartments on floor plans appear noticeably large! Looking at the general floor plans of numerous palaces, occupants generally appear to have preferred smaller more comfortable 'private' rooms for day to day use going back to the sixteenth century! Cabinets, withdrawing rooms, boudoirs and family rooms were and generally are preferred in normal domestic arrangements, with the larger rooms reserved for state and formal occasions.

How 'New Money' has chosen to arrange their guest suites in American homes is hardly comparable to how things are and were done in European Royal Palaces and aristocratic homes IMHO! Everything in America is bigger including cars so the the comparison seems a little oblique! I have stayed at some very charming piles in Britain and on the continent, where the bedrooms have rarely but only occasionally been anything near 20 feet by 15 feet (the size of a 'good' sized dining room in a reasonable spacious house in England from my experience!)with an en-suite shared bathroom with a neighbouring guest bedroom if one is lucky! At one house I have stayed at, which was designed by Vanburgh, my bedroom was absolutely tiny! The room was literally about ten feet wide and there was little room for anything other than the bed, a cupboard and a tiny writing table and chair!

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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2010, 09:40:39 AM »
Thank you for "telling it like it is/was, Margot."  I grew up in one of those "piles,"  large and wandering, with lofty ceilings , rooms that had not been used in decades, yet still completely furnished, etc.  Chests filled with folded clothing (incluing beribboned broad-brimmed Victorian straw hats) of long dead family members.  It seems that NOTHING was ever thrown away! Massive furniture basically of the Victorian era with carved animal feet, arm terminals, etc. To this day I heartily dislike Victorian furnishings.  (My family only lived in the few rooms needed and/or comfortable. ) Certain other rooms were opened only on Sundays for visiting friends/family. I can still remember the smell of the wool carpets when the rooms were "aired-out" before company's arrival, along with the usual caveats:  "no hands in pockets, speak when spoken to, stand until asked/told to sit," etc . Heating was a nightmare and air conditioning non-existant, except for wonderful cross-ventilatiom, when the huge windows were opened. Costs of upkeep could be enormous, especially the roof repairs and plumbing.  Thank God, my mother (my father died when I was rather young) had the assistance of tenants on our properties that helped in day-to-day activities.  Sounds like eons ago, but it really is not that far removed.  I think those who dream of such past times, would have another thought if they looked and LIVED "behind the scenes!" On the other hand, for a child, the ability to "explore and plunder" was tremendous and hide-and-seek had opportunities galore! And, yes, we did have our family "ghosts,' who were more a source of puzzlement to me than fright, though I never tired of relating such to friends who visited and spent the night.   AP
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2010, 10:19:40 AM »
I have stayed in country houses in Britain and Chateaux in France and the guest rooms varied.  Some were as  you stated and some were more luxurious.

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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2010, 02:05:49 PM »
I think I might be able to stay in a place like that. Its always been something I've wanted to do. I love all that kinda of stuff.

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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2010, 02:14:05 PM »
Completely agree with Margot and AP.  As I have written in another post:

I have made many trips to the UK and Ireland, on spiritual tours, that have taken me through many castles. The heirs of these homes find it extremely expensive to maintain. Many of them simply renovate a condominium style of living in a portion of the castle, and allow tourists to come through, as part of The National Trust. This way they can keep their properties as part of their inheritance. We know that there would be funds to maintain Alexander Palace.

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« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2010, 07:47:57 AM »
Boy could I live in the AP !
All I would want is a working fireplace, a smallish bedroom,one of the small kitchens, a bathroom, and Alexandra's balcony. The first thing I would have done ( do) is get rid of all the clutter, the Maples furniture, those horrible floral things, the frilly sewing baskets, the doyly ( ?) lamp shades,  bring out the lawnmower, a floor polisher for all those acres of parquet floors, and thats it.
The only problem is the upkeep, which I could not afford. But other than that yes, I could. My dog would love to go for walks in those gardens every day.
The clutter and the Vicorian stuff would send me into a deep depression, I just would not be able to cope with all that visual indigestion. So the minute it is all gone, I'd be in like a flash.

My grandparents lived in an huge house, which looked very much like Alexandra's Rooms, so big in fact, that half the house was closed for 30 years, so the size would not be a problem.


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« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2010, 09:02:55 AM »
I don't think I could... I don't feel very confortable in huge places. I feel small   :-[

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« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2010, 09:28:37 AM »
No , i couldnt, Beside i found that mauve color awful

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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2010, 05:52:20 AM »
Having lived for my first 18 years in RAF married quarters, I have a fairly high tolerance level of decor I don't like. In other words, to a large extent I can live with it (apart from a certain shade of pale green paint which was with us wherever we went). However, I would have to get rid of all that clutter!

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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2010, 08:28:51 AM »
What we see as clutter was a necessary part of Victorian life.

Alexandra would have thought the rooms were "naked" without it. 

What it don't like about the decor is some of the wallpaper with large splashy rings of flowers and other large designs and then drapes that match.  It would make me dizzy.

I would love all the space, but I think it would be a battle to keep the place clean without the army of staff that the royals had.

I have visited the "mansions" in Newport Rhode Island and they are in sad disrepair, but one can imagine how they must have looked in their prime.  The bedrooms are so big that a king sized bed looks short and strange.  The tour guide made a point of telling us that the bed was truly a king size but only looked short and small because of the size of the room.

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« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2010, 10:32:54 AM »
After just visiting, I can definitely say I could live there.

I've always adored Victorian/Edwardian everything and I love the expansiveness. I would love to live in the Alexander Palace, Winter Palace, Peterhof Palace, Catherine Palace, Mikhailovsky Palace, etc.
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