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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #330 on: March 21, 2008, 09:25:29 PM »
Colm - your comparison between the behavior of the Royal Family and K.K.K. is simply outrageous! Being an American and growing up during the turbulent 1960's there is ABSOLUTELY NO RATIONAL SIMILARITY in your statement. I don't know what history has been taught to you, but I'm shaking my head over your sheer lack of knowledge about that horrible organization ...good grief...

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« Reply #331 on: March 21, 2008, 09:53:01 PM »
Colm, I am not arguing with you.  I am a republican socialist as well, and I  would like to see that happen in  Britain, after the  oresent sovereign is, well, gone.  I have no affection for snobbish,  class  pretentions at all. I spend a great deal of time there,  England is my second home.
 I am simply wondering where your  ideas come from ?  Certainly not al Fayed [2 words, and I do not generally capitalise the "al, as it is just an honorfic "the, alif, " in Arabic].
 If you choose NOT to post  your arguments for what you believe, then they are discounted.  written off as idle and ridiculous fantasies..
 So be it. There are thise who still believe in Anastasia.
  Best to you.
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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #332 on: March 22, 2008, 05:03:19 AM »
'they clearly hate the AlFayads and catholic people, muslims, coloureds and everybody who are not white anglo saxon protestant, in fact they behave like the K.K.K '

With respect, this is the most extraordinary nonsense. One only has to consider the importance that the Queen attaches to her position as head of the Commonwealth, and the respect with which she is viewed within it; this would hardly be possible if anyone thought that she hated everyone apart from white Anglo-Saxon protestants! This is an accustaion that is never brought against the royal family from anyone within minority communities within Britain. Prince Charles is highly respected in the Muslim world for his interest in Islam and his efforts to promote greater understanding between Muslims and Christians. If he has aroused criticism in this connection, it is from Protestants who dislike his talk, e.g., of wishing to be the 'defender of faiths' rather than 'Defender of the Faith', and think that he should concentrate more on his responsibilities as future head of the Church of England. As for hating al Fayed, I think we can all see where the hate and bile is coming from in that particular regard. If there was solid evidence to show that Prince Philip had been involved in a crime like murder, he could be compelled to appear in court and indeed be arrested. None has ever been produced, at this enquiry or anywhere else. Even Mr al Fayed has not accused the Queen of being involved as far as I know, though he has now brought Prince Charles into the plot. But Hell, why am I wasting my time by stating the obvious? Next, I will find myself trying to provide evidence that the royal family do not behave like the KKK or that the Duke of Edinburgh is not a Nazi.

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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #333 on: March 22, 2008, 07:00:59 AM »
O.K my apologies if i have offended, with my strong over the top post, i just believe that there could me more to al Fayads claims than posters are accepting, there is clear motives here and Diana's letter of worry is a major piece of evidence, ordinary people in this situation would have been accused of soliciting and would have the police asking questions.

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« Reply #334 on: March 22, 2008, 09:43:16 AM »
Diana's letter of worry (abeit a bit paranoid, in my opinion) is simply her thoughts on paper. Not cold, hard evidence of things to come.

Her death, while tragic, was nothing more than a car crash caused by a careless driver.

And, as far as some sort of plot to get Diana, geesh, what would be gained by anyone in doing that?? All the parties involved in this matter had moved on in their lives and I'm thinking they wanted Diana to do the same.

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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #335 on: March 22, 2008, 06:25:12 PM »
Calm Down and have some repect for the feelings of other people. I am a devout monarchist and I'm offended by these irrational and provocative outbursts. The late princess has been adopted my many delusional people in the same way as people live for Marylyn Monroe. It's a fantasy figure very different from the real human being...get help guys.

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« Reply #336 on: March 23, 2008, 02:16:18 PM »
I am not sure of the Duke of Edinburg's status, but  it IS the QUEEN'S court, after all.  She cannot be called  to testify. She could, perhaps, make a statement. if she desired to, but no one can compell her to do so.
As I mentioned  earlier.
 

Yes, but I felt compelled to state it again as some people seemed to have not understood it.   ;)

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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #337 on: March 23, 2008, 04:56:48 PM »
Diana's letter of worry (abeit a bit paranoid, in my opinion) is simply her thoughts on paper. Not cold, hard evidence of things to come.

Her death, while tragic, was nothing more than a car crash caused by a careless driver.

And, as far as some sort of plot to get Diana, geesh, what would be gained by anyone in doing that?? All the parties involved in this matter had moved on in their lives and I'm thinking they wanted Diana to do the same.
Diana was to say the least a very disturbed mixed up..irrational woman AT TIMES...she was also mischevious to put it mildly....It was tragic what happened to her..but nobody was to blame but herself for falling into the Fayed trap...and I think she knew what she was doing...

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« Reply #338 on: March 24, 2008, 02:18:03 AM »
First let's start with the premise that a very normal warm hearted Girl married into the Royal Family and received coldness, and no recognition of her value to the Royal Family. This is what her Nanny says and I believe her. Lets say it was left up to her Husband to prepare her for the role but he had no interest in her being anything other than a child bearing, shy, kept in the background wife. What is Camilla supposed to have referred to her as "A Mouse"! In her desire to get his attention She went Blonde, lost weight, competed for his attention, even went to his Mother (the Queen for advice) and tried to get rid of his Mistress! I wonder how many of us would last long in this environment. Ridiculed by the Charles Camp...two months after the divorce and sure of lots of hostility from this source She wrote a letter describing how She felt and what She was afraid of! Ironic to say the least as She did die in a Car Wreck but to return to her feelings back then...

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But according to Burrell, by the autumn of 1996 she had “an overpowering feeling that she was ‘in the way’.”

He adds: “Rightly or wrongly she felt the stronger she became, the more she was regarded as a modernising nuisance.

“She certainly felt that ‘the system’ didn’t appreciate her work and that for as long as she was on the scene Prince Charles could never properly move on.”

Burrell says the princess told him: “I have become strong and they don’t like it when I am able to do good and stand on my own two feet without them.” THE princess’s anxiety deepened to such an extent that she ordered a sweep of her apartments at Kensington Palace for listening devices.

By October 1996 she once again confided in Burrell that she believed there was a concerted attempt to undermine her in the public’s eyes.
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I told you in another post that I watched the segment when Diana went on the landmine expedition to heighten awareness. The News people were folowing her around and told her that when reported to the Royal Family what She was doing they referred to her as a" loose cannon." and it hurt her you could see it in the segment. And this is the kind of thing She was getting all the time especially at the time She wrote the letter.

In post 115 of this thread I published the French Coroner's report and it proved that the Mercedes was hit with a white Fiat Uno ! The only  thing that interests me would have been more information about the Car and what happened with that part of the Wreck! p://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/MIRROR_Diana%20Letter%20Sensation%20'They%20Will%20Try%20To%20Kill%20Me'.html 
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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #339 on: March 24, 2008, 02:20:07 AM »
Oh, and since I can tell someone will say Diana, Princess of Wales was neurotic about the bugging of her Apartment here is this information

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As far as Diana being paranoid here is the testimony of Ken Wharfe, her Police bodyguard and a former Scotland Yard Inspector stated this:
 
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Every member of the royal family was routinely bugged by British security services, the High Court was also told today.

Mr Wharfe said he believed the intention was to protect them from being assassinated by the IRA.

Mr Wharfe said all the royals had been bugged by GCHQ, adding: "I am fairly confident in my own mind that this was routinely done."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507035&in_page_id=1770

Mr Wharfe said the princess told him she knew her conversations were being recorded, that she was not "paranoid" and she discussed it in a "light-hearted" manner. When transcripts of the tapes were published in 1992 she phoned a newspaper's premium rate phone line herself to listen to them.

"Diana was more concerned purely from an embarrassment point of view that this was in the public domain," said Mr Wharfe, a former Scotland Yard inspector who served as her bodyguard from 1987 to 1993.

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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #340 on: March 24, 2008, 03:09:03 AM »
Oh, and since I can tell someone will say Diana, Princess of Wales was neurotic about the bugging of her Apartment here is this information

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As far as Diana being paranoid here is the testimony of Ken Wharfe, her Police bodyguard and a former Scotland Yard Inspector stated this:
 
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Every member of the royal family was routinely bugged by British security services, the High Court was also told today.

Mr Wharfe said he believed the intention was to protect them from being assassinated by the IRA.

Mr Wharfe said all the royals had been bugged by GCHQ, adding: "I am fairly confident in my own mind that this was routinely done."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507035&in_page_id=1770

Mr Wharfe said the princess told him she knew her conversations were being recorded, that she was not "paranoid" and she discussed it in a "light-hearted" manner. When transcripts of the tapes were published in 1992 she phoned a newspaper's premium rate phone line herself to listen to them.

"Diana was more concerned purely from an embarrassment point of view that this was in the public domain," said Mr Wharfe, a former Scotland Yard inspector who served as her bodyguard from 1987 to 1993.


Yes and add the rest of the testimony from other witnesses and from Ken Wharfe himself who testified that he had no evidence that Diana was being bugged. He might be confident in his own mind but that doesn't mean it was done, he had no evidence of it. There is no evidence and a variety of witnesses testified to this a the inquest that the security forces were bugging Diana. This includes too testimony from personel from the security forces.

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« Reply #341 on: March 24, 2008, 03:20:42 AM »
It  seems that there are many definate motives for a murder plot, in this case, and it would not take a rocket scientist to uncover them, at the very least the heads of the Royal family  could have called the paparazzi off, and could have made them respect Diana's privacy with a simple few phone calls, it would appear that this media circus was a good smoke screen to make the killing a success, and conspiracy is not an invention it a science, that is backed up by evidence.



There is no evidence that there was any kind of plot to kill Diana, this even the head of al Fayed's security testified at the inquest. Al Fayed carried out his own investigation and yet his team, despite all the money and resources available to them was able to find no evidence that supported any of al Fayeds charges.

What motives for murder? What Diana was doing  at the time of her death was an irrelevance to the royal family ( testimony from Philip's private secretary) From 1996 she was no longer a member of the BRF and that last summer she was well and truly 'blotting her copybook' as far as the British public was concerned. Have you read any of the media coverage of the time? It was quite savage, she was well and truly being discreditted.
Land Mines? The British government signed the agreement to ban Land Mines in May 1997, months before Diana died. And the woman who actually got the Nobel Peace Prize for the campaign against Land Mines in 1997 ( and had been working on getting a ban since 1992 and did far more than Diana ever did which is why she was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize) is still aliive.

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Re: Diana Enquiry
« Reply #342 on: March 24, 2008, 04:43:06 AM »
O.K my apologies if i have offended, with my strong over the top post,

Well you have. Think before you post such stupid statements next time please. Utterly ridiculous things to say.
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« Reply #343 on: March 24, 2008, 05:37:46 AM »
With regard to the conspiracy theories, this enquiry has been listening to days of evidence from a full range of witnesses, and the jury will be able to reach a conclusion in accordance with the total pattern of the evidence; so why don't we wait to see what the jury concludes?

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« Reply #344 on: March 24, 2008, 05:42:54 PM »
O.K my apologies if i have offended, with my strong over the top post,

Well you have. Think before you post such stupid statements next time please. Utterly ridiculous things to say.
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I was only apologising about the K.K.K and how the Royal family has policies that are similar, when it coms to race, religion and relationships, some things are better left unspoken, my apologies again
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