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« Reply #135 on: November 24, 2007, 11:37:51 AM »
Personally my heart goes out to Camilla......she looks really old and wrinkled!  Also I would think it very bad taste to wear MORE DIAMONDS than the Queen... when you are with her!!   The poor thing has really aged since she married Charles.  Her dress is dowdy too.

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« Reply #136 on: November 24, 2007, 12:03:25 PM »
How blatantly arrogant to display such tasteless oppulence in a  country rife with poverty, illness and war. Charles is not "Head of the Commonwealth" yet.  I feel sorry for Camilla as well. Decked out like a Christmas tree in Uganda, of all places.The Queen is an "old pro" at these things, seems like Camilla still, despite her age, has a lot to learn.

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« Reply #137 on: November 24, 2007, 12:47:37 PM »
How blatantly arrogant to display such tasteless oppulence in a  country rife with poverty, illness and war. Charles is not "Head of the Commonwealth" yet.  I feel sorry for Camilla as well. Decked out like a Christmas tree in Uganda, of all places.The Queen is an "old pro" at these things, seems like Camilla still, despite her age, has a lot to learn.
I have to agree its a bit TOO MUCH !!! for the place..nice to see the Queen lending her the Greville inheritance...which with their Queen mother association must please Charles v much..just wrong place...

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« Reply #138 on: November 24, 2007, 02:05:13 PM »
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Five rows of pearls is rather much in this day and age;  but 5 of diamonds is blatant 'one-upmanship'.......

The Queen has not been upstaged - - she is always a class act and star, wherever, whenever and with whomever!!!!!

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« Reply #139 on: November 24, 2007, 05:08:41 PM »
It's been established that Prince Charles prefers his wife's hair a certain way. Okay great, let him have that in their private life. But when they're out in public, particularly when she's wearing a tiara the size of a punch bowl, could she not do something to it? Anything? I realize I'm simply echoing other posters, but c'mon it just doesn't work all the time. I don't think her intention was to one-up the queen. Perhaps she was going for a Queen Mary look. However, the only person who could carry off the Queen Mary look was Queen Mary. Camilla, with all five rows of that necklace on, looks more like Mr. T. It's just too much. The color of the dress suits her very well, I think, but I feel as though the style or the cut (something about it I just can't place) would suit someone younger. As others have said, it also just wasn't the right place to wear those jewels. Really, Uganda?

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« Reply #140 on: November 25, 2007, 02:40:39 AM »
Quite right! Far too ostentatious and 'de trop!!!' But I tend to think that the PoW has a great deal of influence in the area of what Camilla wears, jewels included! Perhaps in this case he 'liked' the concept of the 'five rows' necklace with the honeycomb tiara, because they combine to present an irrefutably spectacular statement about the wearer's rank and position. I have read that Cookie wore the necklace in 1950, does this mean it has slumbered in her jar since then? I must say I do not remember seeing it more frequently! In Camilla's defense, I can not think of any member of the present RF who could carry the necklace off with aplomb..... even the Queen is a little too vertically challenged for it, and it is just too barbarous! Indeed QM or even QA could have carried it off, but in todays' day and age, IMO such pieces should be reserved for 'State Openings' and other really important events at home, where such conspicuous symbols of wealth are acceptable as part of the panoply of the monarchy, of which we Brits are quietly but justly proud!

It is just an impression, but I feel that the PoW sees jewelry as an element that can only enhance and confirm his wife's stature (not status, that is already cencrete now!) and position in public. It may seem shallow, but David did a similar thing when he showered Wallis with prize pieces, perhaps in order to sooth insecurities and make a point to others. In the PoW and DoC's case, I tend to believe that it is a matter of the former wanting to have his wife adorned in 'family' pieces of significance, to reflect her significance, not just to himself, but to the country and Commonwealth. It is is only an idea! It is a shame that an alternative to the Durbar and Honeycomb tiaras hasn't come to light yet, which would ideally compliment the diamond serpent necklace. I think that particular necklace, one of the nicest and most classic items in the DoC's collection!

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« Reply #141 on: November 25, 2007, 05:57:14 AM »
It's been established that Prince Charles prefers his wife's hair a certain way. Okay great, let him have that in their private life. But when they're out in public, particularly when she's wearing a tiara the size of a punch bowl, could she not do something to it? Anything? I realize I'm simply echoing other posters, but c'mon it just doesn't work all the time. I don't think her intention was to one-up the queen. Perhaps she was going for a Queen Mary look. However, the only person who could carry off the Queen Mary look was Queen Mary. Camilla, with all five rows of that necklace on, looks more like Mr. T. It's just too much. The color of the dress suits her very well, I think, but I feel as though the style or the cut (something about it I just can't place) would suit someone younger. As others have said, it also just wasn't the right place to wear those jewels. Really, Uganda?

Really,Uganda?What do you mean woman!How dare you talk so degrading.

Uganda doesn't wish/want to be threated as a second rate country but as a stable African nation welcoming investors and therefore doesn't wish one bit to tone down all the pomp & circumstance,at all.You might think they all still live in huts and what not,but Africa is emerging from poverty faster then your brains are capable of catching up with.

And as far as the Duchess and the jewelry,more over HM The Queen lent the jewelry to Camilla,now,if that was HM wish,who are you to doubt her I dare say?Exactly.Some called it a display of ignorance and disregard of the many many nations of the Commonwealth>

Reality bite.

As to the "many countries of the Commonwealth",I dare say,most are so smelly of ignorance and disregard against their own,that the stench is unbearable.
It is just a very smelly bubble,a relic of days gone by.

The bashing really has no ending,has it.
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« Reply #142 on: November 25, 2007, 09:00:05 AM »
My curious side begs me to ask if Camilla has a personal dresser to consult with when she's preparing for these functions? The Queen always appears perfectly attired and in good taste at the same time. I can't imagine Camilla not having someone other than her husband who gives an opinion. Maybe the Queen did give her permission to wear these jewels but the combination was way too much in my opinion and as been pointed out in previous comments, only Queen Mary could carry off certain fashion statements such as wearing a large quantity of jewels - Camilla doesn't have that regal style to do so.

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« Reply #143 on: November 25, 2007, 09:52:59 AM »
"How dare you talk so degrading" storms Lucien. Having just addressed Taren as "woman." I broadly agree with the point you are trying to make, Lucien, but overcooking it amidst a swirl of propaganda - having just preceeded it with quite breathtaking hypocrisy - hasn't furthered the discussion. I would have thought the Ugandan people would expect royal representatives being given the red carpet treatment to appear all in ways worthy of such honours. In suh circumstances would be rather awkward in trying to sell such an occasion to the people, a humble figure in jeans, jacket and a single row of pearls.
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« Reply #144 on: November 25, 2007, 11:13:05 AM »
What an ostentatious, vulgar, totally inappropriate display !!   It further confirms the shallowness of the PoW.

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« Reply #145 on: November 25, 2007, 12:18:05 PM »
It's been established that Prince Charles prefers his wife's hair a certain way. Okay great, let him have that in their private life. But when they're out in public, particularly when she's wearing a tiara the size of a punch bowl, could she not do something to it? Anything? I realize I'm simply echoing other posters, but c'mon it just doesn't work all the time. I don't think her intention was to one-up the queen. Perhaps she was going for a Queen Mary look. However, the only person who could carry off the Queen Mary look was Queen Mary. Camilla, with all five rows of that necklace on, looks more like Mr. T. It's just too much. The color of the dress suits her very well, I think, but I feel as though the style or the cut (something about it I just can't place) would suit someone younger. As others have said, it also just wasn't the right place to wear those jewels. Really, Uganda?

Really,Uganda?What do you mean woman!How dare you talk so degrading.

Uganda doesn't wish/want to be threated as a second rate country but as a stable African nation welcoming investors and therefore doesn't wish one bit to tone down all the pomp & circumstance,at all.You might think they all still live in huts and what not,but Africa is emerging from poverty faster then your brains are capable of catching up with.

And as far as the Duchess and the jewelry,more over HM The Queen lent the jewelry to Camilla,now,if that was HM wish,who are you to doubt her I dare say?Exactly.Some called it a display of ignorance and disregard of the many many nations of the Commonwealth>

Reality bite.

As to the "many countries of the Commonwealth",I dare say,most are so smelly of ignorance and disregard against their own,that the stench is unbearable.
It is just a very smelly bubble,a relic of days gone by.

The bashing really has no ending,has it.

Overreact much....man?

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #146 on: November 25, 2007, 12:47:28 PM »
I rather like the gown, for Camilla. It's a pretty color. I would've taken a few strands off the necklace, though.



She's apparently doing some revamping according to the Daily Mail: "She has turned to the designers of her wedding dress, Robinson Valentine, and asked them to create an entirely new wardrobe in keeping with her position as Charles's wife. She has ordered 65 dresses to be worn over the next year, including 12 "special" dresses for the run-up to the Christmas period. Her specific requirements include evening gowns with "room at the neck for jewels". The designers have included a lot of "velvets with twists", day dresses and cocktail dresses cut to the knees or mid-calf – along with her bust, the Duchess considers her legs to be one of her best assets....Although she will make full use of her new wardrobe in private, each dress is normally to be worn only once in public. Once an obscure designer label, Robinson Valentine – now called Anna Valentine after the eponymous designer bought out her partner Antonia Robinson last year – has now become one of the world's most influential fashion houses, thanks to Camilla's patronage. In turn, Anna Valentine has become Camilla's most trusted fashion guru, refining her style and bestowing her with an elegance she never before possessed. " ...Her striking appearance at the Queen's banquet in Kampala on Friday evening was a sign of how much thought has gone on behind the scenes into "packaging" her. Ms Valentine has created a sophisticated palette of pale blues and forest greens that complement Camilla's colouring and work perfectly in the equatorial heat. Fashion expert Karen Kay says: "Camilla is learning to find a regal status that is not about fashion but about creating an iconic image as the King's consort. "The important thing is that she is obviously comfortable. It's very easy to make over a woman, particularly at that age, but all too often they don't look at ease with the changes. "With Camilla that's clearly not the case. She's very clearly wearing the clothes – they are not wearing her." Yet, for all her new-found confidence, the rebrand wasn't Camilla's idea. Like the Queen, she has never taken a great interest in fashion. She may have dug out the family pearls and donned the silk taffeta frock for the season's hunt balls but she is, at heart, an archetypal aristocrat who prefers a sensible wardrobe geared towards a rural lifestyle....."There were some pictures taken recently of her going to see her new grandchild. She was wearing cashmere and she was worried that she looked a bit like an old granny but on the whole she isn't too fussed. "Charles, though, takes a great deal of interest in how his wife looks and appreciates it when she looks her best. "It's partly personal and partly an image thing. Charles, in particular, is very concerned about the Diana comparison." According to Ms Kay, it is a comparison that is inevitable but also unfair. She says: "Diana would be 45 now but instead she's like Marilyn Monroe, eternally youthful in our memory. "She's never going to grow old, no matter how gracefully. She has taken on a myth-like status and that's impossible to compete with. "For Diana, fashion was something different....And before every public engagement, Camilla has her face attended to by Julia Biddlecombe, a professional make-up artist who charges £500 a session and likes to give her a dewy radiance – using a foundation with "light-reflecting particles" rather than a more severe matt look – which is completed by glossy brown eyeshadow and rose lipgloss."
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« Reply #147 on: November 25, 2007, 02:17:46 PM »
Just jumping in here but I don't think even Diana could carry off that ensemble the DoC has on*points up*.  Not talking 'bout the dress it's mega cool-needs a little tweeking around the shoulders.  It's that necklace--as the stones are just too big, just one strand please!  If she decided to throw that thing at somebody they will fall back with a gash wherever that thing hit.

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« Reply #148 on: November 25, 2007, 04:01:15 PM »
Remove the tiara and hideous necklace (stitched onto gauze - is it Martyn?) from the above photograph and Camilla is the double of a 1970s Margaret Thatcher.

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« Reply #149 on: November 25, 2007, 04:10:47 PM »
The poor woman looks in pain from carrying that load of rocks.
 I see what you mean, Tsaria.  There is a bit of a likness of "the lady who is not for turning". I imagine Lady Thatcher to be more formodable though.