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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #270 on: August 05, 2008, 08:26:26 AM »

I do not think those ladies  would even take an oath, Eric.   The king takes an oath, or swears to uphold the constitution, but they will be queens  simply by  being the wife, I believe.
 I imagine Camilla will be much the same.   She will take the style of her husband, whether or not she  is called "queen"



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Then is not Camilla the current Princes of Wales no mater what title she uses?

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #271 on: August 05, 2008, 09:56:03 AM »
Even if she was she would not dare to use it. Can you imagine the respone in England? BP would be stormed
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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #272 on: August 05, 2008, 10:22:14 AM »
Camilla's full titles are Her Royal Highness The Princess Charles Philip Arthur George, Princess of Wales and Countess of Chester, Duchess of Cornwall, Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Carrick, Baroness of Renfrew, Lady of the Isles, Princess of Scotland

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #273 on: August 05, 2008, 10:27:04 AM »
I've never heard the title Princess of Scotland before. Does that come from the Scottish royal family before James I or after?
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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #274 on: August 05, 2008, 10:32:24 AM »
de facto, yes, she takes her  husband's styles and titles. It would be grossly insensitive  for her, however, to use  "Princess of Wales" it is not de jure, so to speak.

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #275 on: August 05, 2008, 10:34:13 AM »
According to the official royal website, Charles' titles are:  His Royal Highness Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, KG, KT, GCB, OM, AK, QSO, PC, ADC, Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland.

Since the unification of England and Scotland in 1603, the titles have fallen from habitual use, the holder also from then on usually being Duke of Cornwall, Prince of Wales and Duke of Rothesay, which were preferred, and is now seldom referred to, except as the last in the conventional list of the Prince of Wales's titles. Similar to the process of Crown consent (see Royal Assent), in order for any bill affecting, directly or by implication, the personal property or interests of the Prince and Great Steward of Scotland to be heard in Parliament, the Prince must first consent to its hearing.

So - if Charles is Prince of Scotland, than Camilla as his wife is Princess of Scotland.

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #276 on: August 05, 2008, 10:37:57 AM »
Thank you for the information.
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« Reply #277 on: August 05, 2008, 01:05:53 PM »
To be fair, Camilla was more a Princess of Scotland than Diana ever was. She enjoyed the country side and met up at QM's castle at Birkhall with Charles even before she wedded him.

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« Reply #278 on: August 05, 2008, 04:04:02 PM »
That is very true, Eric. I  would not disagree at all.  Diana expressed her dislike of "country life" and it was obvious she was much happier in  urban enviornments.  Camilla is just the opposite.  Nothing wrong with either one of their preferences.

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #279 on: August 05, 2008, 05:48:53 PM »
Indeed...Camilla looked her most natural in country clothes and tweeds. She was very much an English country woman (she does not even acompany her husband on his painting expideitions to Tuscany, Italy).

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« Reply #280 on: August 05, 2008, 06:21:45 PM »
Indeed...Camilla looked her most natural in country clothes and tweeds. She was very much an English country woman (she does not even acompany her husband on his painting expideitions to Tuscany, Italy).

Can't say I blame her.  Sitting on a hillside watching him sketch for hours on end while he communes with nature?  No thanks - boring!

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #281 on: August 05, 2008, 06:33:28 PM »
Indeed...Camilla looked her most natural in country clothes and tweeds. She was very much an English country woman (she does not even acompany her husband on his painting expideitions to Tuscany, Italy).

Can't say I blame her.  Sitting on a hillside watching him sketch for hours on end while he communes with nature?  No thanks - boring!

Why would she have to sit on the hill and watch him sketch? She could sight see. Tuscany is absolutely beautiful!

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #282 on: August 05, 2008, 07:30:10 PM »
Indeed...Camilla looked her most natural in country clothes and tweeds. She was very much an English country woman (she does not even acompany her husband on his painting expideitions to Tuscany, Italy).

Can't say I blame her.  Sitting on a hillside watching him sketch for hours on end while he communes with nature?  No thanks - boring!

Why would she have to sit on the hill and watch him sketch? She could sight see. Tuscany is absolutely beautiful!

Knowing Prince Charles I would imagine as a condition of her accompanying her husband to this well known beauty spot, she'd be required to watch him with rapt enthusiasm for the duration of the excursion and to be on stand-by for any little needs which may crop up.

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« Reply #283 on: August 05, 2008, 07:56:46 PM »
I have a feeling Grace is right.  He would expect her to  devotedly  stay by his side. Whilst she would be thinking of horse farms in the area.

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Re: Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, Part II
« Reply #284 on: August 06, 2008, 08:05:38 AM »

Knowing Prince Charles I would imagine as a condition of her accompanying her husband to this well known beauty spot, she'd be required to watch him with rapt enthusiasm for the duration of the excursion and to be on stand-by for any little needs which may crop up.
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KILLING!  After all these years her 'rapt expression' must be extremely polished.......

I know that many have said that she prefers life in the country to that of being in the media spotlight, but she doesn't look unhappy in her new role.  I suppose in that respect, either she is a consummate actress putting on a first class performance in support of her husband, or she really is enjoying herself, decked out in all her new finery.........Personally I think that she has taken to it like a duck to water, which perhaps is no bad thing for the RF, but not nearly as diverting for us (who can forget how Diana managed to convey her unhappiness/displeasure on public occasions, to the mortification of Charles and exciting the interest of the public???)
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