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beladona

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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2008, 03:04:52 AM »
That is true, no dynastic names. All children of Mercedes Dietrichstein married citizens of Argentina and their children have typical (?) spanish names.
Olga have with Josef Daubek four children. Till the beginning of WW2 they lived in Czech republic, where Josef died in 1935. Then they left Czech republic to Austria. I have no detailed information about children of Olga and their families, maybe some of her daughters fled for Argentina, but some members of family are still living in Austria.
Btw. Georg Doubek, brother of Josef, married a famous opera singer and actress Jarmila Novotna.

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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2008, 06:24:15 AM »
Count Moritz von Dietrichstein:



Prince Franz Joseph von Dietrichstein:



his wife Princess Alexandra von Dietrichstein,born Countess Shuvalova:



Princess Alexandra's mother,Countess Elisabeth Shuvalova,born Princess Saltykova:


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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2008, 10:14:48 AM »
I can help a tiny bit on the family of Pss Olga.
Maria b 1923 m Pierre Parisc..no idea if they have issue
Joseph b 1924 ?
Olga b 1928 m Enrique Laroza ( Peru) and issue: Olga b 1950, Enrique b 1953...they must be married?
Alexandra b- m Volkmar von Arnim and have an adopted dau.

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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2008, 12:18:47 PM »
Marc, thanks for the beautiful pictures, I know only the last one of them. Prince Franz Joseph looks here very ugly and arrogant. Where are those pictures from? Do you know any pictures of Joseph (born 28.3.1798, died Friedland 10.7.1858), the only son of Prince Franz Joseph and Alexandra, born Shuvalova?

Norbert, thanks for info about the family of Princess Olga. I found on internet also one Joseph Daubek (born 1980) - maybe it is descendant of her?

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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2008, 04:23:24 PM »
I found some pictures on my other lap-top and I often google in search for them,so no specific site about Dietrichstein family :-(((

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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2008, 06:02:29 AM »
no specific site about Dietrichstein family, that is true.
I found on internet two graphics of count Moritz Dietrichstein (1775-1864). He married countess Therese Gilleis and had two children, Moritz (1801-52) and Julia (1806-83), married Oettingen-Wallerstein - I found no pictures of them.
Last male member of DIetrichstein family, count Moritz:



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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2008, 11:19:41 AM »
Should we add the Counts Mensdorf Pouilly to this site?

beladona

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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2008, 03:22:31 PM »
Sure, if you please:))...and do you mean the Dietrichstein-Mensdorff-Pouilly linie, which continued in Nicolsburg - descendents of ALexander Mensdorff Pouilly (1813-71) - or Mensdorff-Pouilly linie, descendents of his older brother Count Alphons (1810-94), owner of castle Boskovice in Moravia?

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2008, 06:08:05 AM »
Best start with Baron Emanuel de Pouilly cr 1818 Ist Count Mensdorff-Pouilly and husband of Pss Sophie of Saxe-Coburg . Originally from Nancy, I believe he had fled with his family from revolutionary France in 1795. Love to know more about their meeting and marriage. I presume he must have been quite wealthy to build Schloss Boskowitz in Moravia and for their  younger son Alexander to be a successful suitor for the  Dietrichstein's.

beladona

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2008, 09:16:48 AM »
So here is Emanuel (1777-1852)


And Sophie, born Sachsen-Coburg-Saafeld (1778-1835)


I do not know much about their meeting and marriage. Should it be a love match? Sophie was oldest from four sisters and in 1804 all her sisters were married, Antoinette with duke Alexander Wurttemberg, Juliane with Grand duke Konstantin of Russia and Viktoria with Prince zu Carl Leiningen. Sophie was 26 year old. Maybe it was one of reasons for her to marry not very rich and „only“ Count Emanuel de Pouilly? (I think she and her family should view this marriage as morganatic.) Sophie and Emanuel had six sons – should we collect here informations about them and their portraits?
And just a small correction – castle Boskowitz was buildt by Count Franz Dietrichstein and his son Franz Xaver Dietrichstein. Mensdorff-Pouilly family inherited it with marriage of Alphons Mensdorff-Pouilly with Teresia Dietrichstein, daughter of Franz Xaver.

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2008, 10:51:23 AM »
thankyou for those. I found this of Boskowice

beladona

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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2008, 11:04:43 AM »
here is the web of Boskowitz castle: http://www.zamekboskovice.cz/, with photgallery and some texts in english.

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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2008, 11:11:40 AM »
beautiful empire stairs in Boskowitz:


and castle Preitenstein, which bought Count Emanuel Mensdorff-Pouilly in 1838:

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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2008, 02:54:27 PM »
I read that Sophie after some time of her marriage lived in Mainz and although ''just'' a Countess,she was always reffered there as ''die Fuerstin''!

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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2008, 07:17:28 AM »
Countess was too little for her…:))
She had with Emanuel Mensdorff-Pouilly six sons:
HUGO Ferdinand, *Coburg 24.8.1806, +Gräfenberg 21.10.1847
ALPHONS Friedrich Ferdinand, *Coburg 25.1.1810, +Boskovice 10.2.1894; 1m: Wien 23.7.1843 Therese von Dietrichstein-Proskau-Leslie (*31.8.1823 +29.12.1856); 2m: Wien 31.5.1862 Maria Theresia von Lamberg (*3.12.1833 +1.2.1876)
ALFRED Carl, *Gaea 23.1.1812, +Amorbach 27.4.1814
ALEXANDER Konstantin Albrecht, (later Prince Dietrichstein-Mensdorff-Pouilly), *Coburg 4.8.1813, +Praha 14.2.1871; m.Wien 28.4.1857 Alexandrine Dietrichstein-Proskau-Leslie (*28.2.1824 +22.2.1906)
LEOPOLD Emanuel, *Coburg 18.3.1815, +Praha 5.5.1821
ARTHUR August, *Coburg 19.8.1817, +Wöllau 23.4.1904; 1m: Venezia 25.10.1853 (div 1882) Magdalene Kremzow (*13.11.1835, +Wien 15.4.1899); 2m: Wöllau 11.12.1902 Bianca Albertina von Wickenburg (*Graz 6.10.1837, +Wöllau 19.9.1912)