Dietrichstein family

[Marc]

Are there some more portraits of Dietrichstein-Mensdorff family?

[beladona]

I hope so. Maybe someone will help us to collect them here??

Here is first Prince Dietrichstein-Mensdorff-Pouilly, Alexander (1813-71)

litographie by Kriehuber,1854

[Marc]

That is great...I have never seen any picture of him.I don't know why,but ?Dietrichstein family is one of my favorite mediatized families...Not just that they were cousins of the British royal family,but even Queen Victoria descended from Dietrichstein family and through her most royal families of Europe!

[beladona]

That is great...I have never seen any picture of him.I don't know why,but ?Dietrichstein family is one of my favorite mediatized families...Not just that they were cousins of the British royal family,but even Queen Victoria descended from Dietrichstein family and through her most royal families of Europe!

I would like to see picture of his wife, Alexandrina Dietrichstein…
I think Dietrichstein family is a little forgotten now, because it is extinct – the last living member of Dietrichstein family is Mercedes Dietrichstein (married for the second time to her cousin Saturnino Zembora y Dose).
How do you mean Queen Victoria descend from Dietrichstein family? I know, they were cousins (their mothers were sisters), but I thought it is the only connection?

[Marc]

Queen Victoria descended from Countess Anna Amalia von Dietrichstein who lived in the 17th century and through her she also descended from Maximilian I von Habsburg,Holy Roman Emperor(there are also fiew other lines)!

[beladona]

Queen Victoria descended from Countess Anna Amalia von Dietrichstein who lived in the 17th century and through her she also descended from Maximilian I von Habsburg,Holy Roman Emperor(there are also fiew other lines)!

 I see, you mean Anna Amalia Dietrichstein, wife of Maxmilian Zinzendorff, ancestors of Augusta Reuss (1757-1831), wife of Franz Sachsen-Coburg-Saafeld. Thanks for this information, I did not know it. Though Anna Amalie come not from princely line of Dietrichstein, as you wrote, she (as well as members of princely line) descend from Emperor Maxmilian I von Habsburg.
I found beautiful portrait of Augusta as Artemisia, it was painted by Johann Heinrich Tischbein in 1775 (two years before her marriage):

[Marc]

Yes,Countess Anna Amalia was from the Dietrichstein-Hollenburg branch,but it's the same family!Similar as Reuss family and its branches.For example,Auguste Reuss was only a Countess when was born,but at the time Queen Victoria was born,she was already Princess Reuss von Loebenstein-Ebersdorf in her own right!This Reuss line gained the Princely title in 1806!

[Norbert]

Is Mercedez regarded as head of the line now and it's heiress? I believe she is claiming the estates of her father. Does she and her family plan to return to Europe or remain in Argentina

[beladona]

I think she is regarded not as head of the line, rather as the last member of family Dietrichstein and a member of family Leloir.
She is trying to claim the family estate, but she probably didn´t get it back. Even if she could have it, her children, which live all their lives in Argentina, won´t go to quite foreign land for them.

[Norbert]

are the Leloir family regarded as quite grand in Argentina?

[beladona]

are the Leloir family regarded as quite grand in Argentina?

that´s what I want to know too...and same case family of Mercedes mother, Maria Mercedes Dose y Obligado...I don´t know anything about noble families in Argentina...

[Norbert]

well, obviously there are no noble families in Argentina but perhaps they have married into the political elite....interesting if they were connected to the odd dictaitor or fascist tyrant.

[Norbert]

seems we are all to frightened to confirm

[Marc]

Well,that's why most of German families after WW II went to South America...

[Norbert]

Yes, Argentina was a favourite refuge. Shocking