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Schvibzik

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Olga & Bi polar
« on: November 03, 2007, 09:00:10 AM »


Hi everyone, i am new on the boards ...so first of all hello!!

Secondly i read somewhere ...i cannot exactly remember where, that Olga had bipolar and was actually rather imbalanced.

Is this view substantiated? is there any evidence at all?

I know her relationship with her mother was rather strained, and can that be attributed to Bipolar?

all this is mere conjecture of course and i am sorry if this topic came up previously and has already been discussed

loulia

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2007, 09:06:01 AM »
welcolme on the forum!
I've never heard of Olga being bipolar before, I only heard some theories of Alix being.
It would be nice if you can remember the source or at leat what were the author's argumeznts to explain this? on which factqs he bases his theory?

Schvibzik

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2007, 10:41:41 AM »


http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Otma-Nikolaevna-91360.html

Which of the daughters had medical problems?

Grand Duchesses Olga and Anastasia. It's true, Olga and Anastasia had some problems--it wasn't just Aleksey who was ill. Olga had anemia and suffered from what we'd probably now call bi-polar disorder (in 1915, she suffered a nervous breakdown), and Anastasia had scoliosis; her aunt, Grand Duchess Olga Aleksandrovna, wrote that she remembered a nurse coming to massage her niece's back and naughty Anastasia ran off and hid somewhere, so the family had to search for her for quite a long while before that massage started.


there it is..on a website. I also see that there is already a discussion on this matter here

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=1288.msg3133

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2007, 01:09:25 PM »
Olga had a nervous breakdown. Sorry i have no idea where the question mark is on this european keyboard.

Iv'e never heard that before. I suppose it's plausable, given everything.

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2007, 03:02:28 PM »
IMO, categorizing Olga as bipolar would be an exaggeration. Yes, she was sometimes described as irritable, moody, or despressed, but to my knowledge there's no evidence of her exhibiting the extreme mood swings that characterize bipolar disorder.

I'm trying really hard not to be sarcastic, but I very much doubt that funtrivia.com is a reliable source for medical/mental health dignoses.
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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2007, 07:27:17 PM »
I have never read anywhere that Olga was bipolar. That seems way out.

Schvibzik

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 03:20:26 AM »
Don't Blaspheme Sarushka

the fun trivia site is infallable!

*shakes head*

dmitri

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2007, 05:59:01 AM »
wrong thread for your comment Schvibzik. Please go to the fun section.

Olishka~ Pincess

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2007, 08:30:41 AM »
Yes, your getting off topic.  Were suppose to be discussing serious topics.Olga did not have bipolar. I think that trivia website is wrong. I don't think she had that serious of a disorter. Maybe a mental breakdown, or stress or moody feelings, but not as severe as bipolar.

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2007, 08:41:27 AM »
I myself have scoliosis and had two major depression (the one had nothing to do with the other). I don't think you can call scoliosis a desease, it's more a condition; it's a deformation of your spine and causes a lot of back pain. Standing up for more than an hour is realy painfull, so I can imagine what Anastasia went through (considering all those ceremonies).
I am 23 now (the age Olga was when murdered). As for bi-polar, there have to be periods of extreme happiness following periods of extreme depression. I don't think Olga had bipolar disorder, just depression. Or does anyone know of her having manic periods? Being the oldest and brightest of her siblings, one can understand why she was more vulnerable for depression. The moods I can understand, I myself went through them. Being depressed you try to hide it from your family and the people close to you, so not to cause them more pain (and Olga's parents had enough of their own problems with the war, the hospital, Alexey,...) So the best thing you can do is to put on a happy face, but that doesn't realy work when you're actualy dying fom the inside, so you make a bigger efford. But it never works, cause you still feel awfull. To the outside world it looks like you have moodswings, but you're just trying to live trough the day and to please the people you love. The worst thing about depression is that you feel guilty you are depressed. And when you think about Olga who spend whole days with realy sick, invalid soldiers, her guilt must have been immense. Here were lying hundreds of brave young man, in great pain, and you are young, have everything and still feel so terrible. The feeling of guilt eats you up from the inside. No wonder Olga had a nervous breakdown.
It's realy hard to explain what I'm trying to say (it's always hard to put in words what you feel) but I hope some of you do understand what I'm trying to say.

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2007, 12:31:16 PM »
I think you explained yourself very well. There is no evidence to assert that Olga was bipolar. 

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2007, 03:28:36 PM »
Bipolar seems to be something everyone thinks they have nowadays. I've noticed at school, I'll hear this a lot: Yeah, she's so bipolar. All she does is yell. Or... You probably have bipolar!

Being angry doesn't mean bipolar. It just means you're...angry.  :D Bipolar isn't nearly as common as it seems to be.

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2007, 05:10:37 PM »
I don’t understand why people do not read the initial post properly

And then make the statements in reply  accordingly

And what is it with jumping down people’s throats? This is meant to be a site for people who love the Romanov family.

This is my first post on the boards and replies to it are full of antagonism

I never claimed fun trivia was a reputable source for Olga having bi polar, it was merely the site that I came across such an assertion in regards to Olga.

That is why the question was asked here in the first place, and in the question I am ASKING if that view was substantiated, if there was ANY PROOF of Olga having Bi Polar, perhaps documents from the Imperial doctors etc

I in no way stated that I was certain she had bi polar because I had read it on fun trivia

Jeeeeeeeeeeeez

Besides I would be very much surprised indeed if any of the girls were not depressed. No human being could withstand that much pressure from having an ill mother, brother, worried father, war raging in your home country, people you love being assassinated..the list goes on and on

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2007, 09:00:33 PM »
I doubt that Olga suffered from Bipolar disorder...
during her later years in life i believe she suffered from depression, but a war would make anyone depressed.

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Re: Olga & Bi polar
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2007, 09:08:51 PM »
I have to agree with Sarushka.
Olga was.. moody
but i don't believe that she was bi polar. there is no evidence from doctors or anything showing this

the site you came across probably got wrong information from another site, a chain!
that is obviously wrong information.