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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2008, 08:40:07 PM »
Albert was already dead by then and he never adopted her. His sisters provided evidence that she was his natural daughter to the Nazi courts.
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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2008, 03:48:22 PM »
It is so interesting to guess who could be Valerie's mother?I guess that he had some known ''relationships'' just to narrow the search...who were those ladies?

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2008, 09:23:25 AM »
I think the only thing known is that she was of noble birth. I believe that Marlene did a good amount of research into it for her book but there just isn't evidence out there.
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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2008, 11:14:32 AM »
many thanks .Sorry, yes she was adopted by a Jewish family and recognised in 1938....I  just wondered if it was an attempt to save her from arrest? Perhaps Marlene will confirm the evidence of her birth.

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2008, 03:53:38 PM »
She also had a very large and ornate necklace of pearls, diamonds and (I think) emeralds. Given the early age of the portrait, I would suspect it was a wedding gift but will have to look through my back issues:




I found the portrait in color and you can definitel tell the drop is an emerald

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2008, 08:36:18 AM »
Princess Helena's daughters, Marie-Louise and Victoria Helena





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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2008, 10:10:15 PM »
There's a thread on Helena's children

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,224.0.html

 
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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2008, 11:49:48 AM »
Helena's wedding, 1866  * was it at Westmninster Abbey or Windsor * ?


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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2008, 12:16:41 PM »
Princess Helena was married in the "old" private chapel of windsor castle.  It was destroyed in the fire of a few years back.  A new smaller chapel
was built to replace it.

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2008, 12:24:41 PM »
Princess Helena was married in the "old" private chapel of windsor castle.  It was destroyed in the fire of a few years back.  A new smaller chapel
was built to replace it.

I had no idea that it was destroyed   :( ... what other places were effected?

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2008, 03:27:54 AM »
There's a very extensive article on Wikipedia which discusses the extent of the damage to the castle, for a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Windsor_Castle_fire

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2008, 10:04:38 AM »
There's a very extensive article on Wikipedia which discusses the extent of the damage to the castle, for a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Windsor_Castle_fire


Thanks !  :)   I do know that the fire damaged a whole wing of the castle .....

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2008, 05:21:17 PM »
Helena, Christian, and daughter Marie-Louise ( I think )


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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2008, 05:44:35 PM »
Yes, it's a very pretty and feminine style - it doesn't seem fair that Lenchen was sometimes criticized for not making an effort with her appearance.   

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Re: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2008, 07:50:51 PM »
I think when family members (read Queen Victoria) criticized Helena's appearance they were speaking more of her manner than her looks.  How one appears to others- perhaps she was ungraceful, or walked strangely, or had mannerisms that were more in common with men of her period- has a strong affect on a person's overall attractiveness.  I've often wondered why Helena was called unattractive.  However, a remark from "Victoria's Daughters" has stuck in my head.  In a passage on Helena's tomboyish personality in youth, Packard remarks that Lenchen had to discard her favorite pursuits as unfeminine once she grew older.  She liked athletic and mechanical activities- neither of which were acceptable for a Victorian princess.  "Only once she lost this innocence during her teens would her life take on its coloring of apathy..."  I know if I could not enjoy my favorite hobbies I would become a far less colorful person.  Maybe the environment stunted Lenchen's personality in a way that showed outwardly.