historical accuracy/ethics question regarding writing books

[Arleen_Ristau]

THANK YOU SO MUCH SARAHUSHA!!!  We needed that.....

Doesn't anyone just read books any more for the PURE ENJOYMENT of the read? (There isn't a book printed today that a mistake cannot be found....overlook them!)

All of this fussing and fighting is too much!  One thing I've learned about the AP forum.....no one is going to change anyone's personal opinion on anything....the struggle just goes on and on once you guys start in on a subject to disagree on.  Then when some dumb person like me breaks in to say ENOUGH ALREADY I get my head chewed off, and worse.

Oh well.....carry on I guess. 
Arleen

[AGRBear]

Sorry Arlee,  I eliminated my post.

 So people know what I eliminated and then they'll know to what you are reffering,  I'll repost it.

I spent some time looking through a particular thread "Space Alien Intervention" which was created while I , Helen and Annie were having one of those heated discussions about AA or something.  The thread was meant to be light hearted and a little off key.  I ran across this and thought I'd share:

Sarahusha's #242 post:
Well, if we're going to get silly!

May I present...drum roll...

Super Ted, the ULTIMATE Romanov authority

I can hardly see my keyboard through my tears of  laughter.

AGRBear

Thanks Sarsuhka for the laugh that day and, again, this morning.


AGRBear

PS  I know a lot more about the Romanovs than I did then, but,  not as much you and other posters who continue to add to our knowledge.

[Arleen_Ristau]

Thanks Bear, I need all the help I can get with my computer!  I can't seem to dredge up "quotes"

Arleen

[Puppylove]

Bear, funny! My favorite space alien posts were when you showed a photo of your books in boxes and Annie asked if those were the boxes you thought outside of. It just about killed me!

[Puppylove]

Arleen, I know what you're saying. In my opinion, even if you read a book for more than fun, it should still be possible to keep discussion light-hearted. But this can be tough when all you have to go by are posted words, without the benefit of vocals and body language to interpret them. I still believe though, that the basic premise of this thread is valid: historians, their use of facts and their interpretations deserve examination.

[helenazar]

Arleen, I know what you're saying. In my opinion, even if you read a book for more than fun, it should still be possible to keep discussion light-hearted. But this can be tough when all you have to go by are posted words, without the benefit of vocals and body language to interpret them. I still believe though, that the basic premise of this thread is valid: historians, their use of facts and their interpretations deserve examination.

Once upon a time these discussions could have been kept lighthearted or at least kept very civil, but since there is unsavory history there now, that's probably no longer possible or just not very easy to do... For the most part we can discuss the majority of authors and their books with no problem, it's only specific ones that make it difficult to do.

[Arleen_Ristau]

I read everything even though I rarely post.  So I do understand.  But I just get tired of all the ill will.  Especially about Greg and Penny.

Sorry to butt in to your discussion.  Frankly I enjoyed FOTR.....and since NO ONE really knows what happened  on the girls/Alexi's boat journey I just passed over it and still kept my own opinions intact.....like I do with ALL Romanov books.  The only ones that I totally believe are the books of letters, those I enjoy so much! 

But I am patiently awiting Bob's book.......

Arleen

[Annie]

Arleen, I know what you're saying. In my opinion, even if you read a book for more than fun, it should still be possible to keep discussion light-hearted. But this can be tough when all you have to go by are posted words, without the benefit of vocals and body language to interpret them. I still believe though, that the basic premise of this thread is valid: historians, their use of facts and their interpretations deserve examination.

Once upon a time these discussions could have been kept lighthearted or at least kept very civil, but since there is unsavory history there now, that's probably no longer possible or just not very easy to do... For the most part we can discuss the majority of authors and their books with no problem, it's only specific ones that make it difficult to do.

There really are very few authors who come here to comment on our comments about their work. I guess most of them have other things to do and don't have time, maybe they are so pleased with their finished product it doesn't matter, or maybe they just don't want to know.

[helenazar]

But I just get tired of all the ill will.  Especially about Greg and Penny.

Sorry to butt in to your discussion.  Frankly I enjoyed FOTR.....and since NO ONE really knows what happened  on the girls/Alexi's boat journey I just passed over it and still kept my own opinions intact.....like I do with ALL Romanov books. 

Hi Arleen, there is a separate thread for FOTR if you want to comment on it...

[helenazar]

There really are very few authors who come here to comment on our comments about their work. I guess most of them have other things to do and don't have time, maybe they are so pleased with their finished product it doesn't matter, or maybe they just don't want to know.

Yes, this is true, which is why there are usually no problems discussing most books here. If anyone remembers on the original thread, which was deleted, one of he things I mentioned about authors' obligations was that they should be professionally receptive to criticism from the readers (which is normal) if there is any. Most authors are, but alas this is not always the case... :-(

[edtash]

THANK YOU SO MUCH SARAHUSHA!!!  We needed that.....

Doesn't anyone just read books any more for the PURE ENJOYMENT of the read? (There isn't a book printed today that a mistake cannot be found....overlook them!)

All of this fussing and fighting is too much!  One thing I've learned about the AP forum.....no one is going to change anyone's personal opinion on anything....the struggle just goes on and on once you guys start in on a subject to disagree on.  Then when some dumb person like me breaks in to say ENOUGH ALREADY I get my head chewed off, and worse.

Oh well.....carry on I guess. 
Arleen

I could not agree with you more!

Eddie

[Robert_Hall]

My sentment as well, Eddie and Arleen. This nonesnse has gone on far too long and is pointless now. I am sorry the threads were revived now.

[helenazar]

This nonesnse has gone on far too long and is pointless now. I am sorry the threads were revived now.

Well, the reason they were revived was because they had to be deleted (we all know why), so nothing was resolved from those discussions. If they were just left alone and we were allowed to discuss them, it would have run its course and everyone would have stopped talking about this long ago... Also, it is all new to some people, even if it may be the same nonsense to the rest us...  Those who find it boring and the same old nonsense don't have to participate or even read it ;-).

[Puppylove]

This nonesnse has gone on far too long and is pointless now. I am sorry the threads were revived now.

Well, the reason they were revived was because they had to be deleted (we all know why), so nothing was resolved from those discussions. If they were just left alone and we were allowed to discuss them, it would have run its course and everyone would have stopped talking about this long ago... Also, it is all new to some people, even if it may be the same nonsense to the rest us...  Those who find it boring and the same old nonsense don't have to participate or even read it ;-).

Doesn't this board have a thread dedicated to "subjects/topics/posts & posters we hate to read?" Or something similar?

[helenazar]

This nonesnse has gone on far too long and is pointless now. I am sorry the threads were revived now.

Well, the reason they were revived was because they had to be deleted (we all know why), so nothing was resolved from those discussions. If they were just left alone and we were allowed to discuss them, it would have run its course and everyone would have stopped talking about this long ago... Also, it is all new to some people, even if it may be the same nonsense to the rest us...  Those who find it boring and the same old nonsense don't have to participate or even read it ;-).

Doesn't this board have a thread dedicated to "subjects/topics/posts & posters we hate to read?" Or something similar?

Perhaps someone should start one instead of going off topic all the time... BTW, we are not even talking about FOTR most of the time until someone or other drags it back up... I think they like the bickering and controversy it causes, no matter how much they deny it... But this was why I reminded Arlene that it has its own thread.