Princes Baryatinsky

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[Laura Mabee]

She was quite a beautiful women. Please correct me where I am wrong, but wasn't her fashion of such a low neckline considered a bit "risque"?

[grandduchessella]

Well she was a singer (often associated back then with loose morals).  

I have to say, she is extraordinarily lovely--probably one of the loveliest I've seen from that era.

[Fay]

Yes, she is really wonderful. I love pictures of the beauties of old times!!!

[L.]

   :DShe was so beautiful!!! I had never heard for her before.

[frimousse]

here is the portrait of general leutenant Anatoly Ivanovich 1820-1881

what happened to his descent ?
Wladimir Anatolievich and others ? thanks in advance.

[hikaru]

The eldest son of Anatoly Iwanowitch Baryatinsky was a close friend of the tsar Alexandr III( so called "alcohol fellow")
His name was Vladimir Anatolievich Baryatinsky ( 1843-1914), general - adjutant.
He was the Head of The Suite of the Tsesarevitch Nicholas during his travel to the East of 1890-1891.
The children of Vladimir Anatolievich:
1. Alexandr Vladimirovich - married to Ekaterina Alexanrovna Yuriecskaya
2. Anatoly Vladimirovich
3. Vladimir Vladimirovich
4. Maria Vladimirovna
5. Anna Vladimirovna married to Count Scherbatov
6. Irina Vladimirovna married to Malytsov, shooted with mother in Yalta
7. Elizaveta Vladimirovna married to Count Apraksine
I also would like to hear the further destiny of his children.
No. 2 Anatoly Vladimirovich had a daughter - Maria Anatolievna who married to an English Officer Mr. D. Ford.

[frimousse]

thank you Hikaru !
Is Anatoly Wladimirovich the one who died in an hospital in Paris ?

[hikaru]

I do not know exactly, it seems that he is.
According to my russian book, he died in France when he was 53.

[BobG]

I have just finished reading Pricness Maria Sergeievna Bariantsky's book My Russian Life and wanted to point out that this is not the Princess Marie Viktorovna Bariantinskaia who is the subject of this thread and was born in 1858.  Marie Viktorovna was the aunt of Marie Sergeievna's husband (Prince Anatoli Vladimirovitch Bariatinsky).  Marie Viktorovna was Alexandra's Lady in Wainting (according My Russian Life) for the first two years of Alexandra's reign (having been appointed, no doubt, by the Dowager Empress).  Marie Viktoria's brother Vladimir (Marie Sergeievna's father-in-Law) was the Grand Master of Marie Feodorovna's court.

I do believe the reference in Alexandra's diary could be to either Marie Bariatinsky assuming that "Olga [her sister-in-law] is refering to Alix's sister-in-law, Olga Nicholaevich.  Marie Sergeievna lived in Kiev and had a hospital there and it is possible she would have been familiar with Olga Nicholaevich.  However, if the reference is to Marie Bariatinky's sister-in-law Olga, then it is Marie Viktorovna to whom Alexandra is refering.  (The younger Princess Bariatinsky did have a sister-in-law named Olga, but not until 1916.)  It makes the most sense to me that Alexandra's reference is to the Younger Princess who talks in her book about traveling back and forth from Kiev to St. Petersburg in the spring of 1915.

Ironically, Marie Sergeievna's mother-in-law (Marie Viktorovna's sister-in-law) Princess Nadejda Bariatinsky was made Lady-in-waiting to both Empresses 11/14/1913 on the Dowager Empress's birthday.  I believe other members of the family were also ladies-in-waiting.

Marie Sergeievna's Mother-in-Law was killed by the Bolsheviks in 1920 along with her daughter Irene and Irene's husband, Sergei Ivanovitch Maltsov.  She does not mention in her book what happened to Princess Marie Viktorovna.

BobG

[Vassili_Vorontsoff]

Sam,

Perhaps could you find some contacts thanks to this...

http://www.genealogytoday.com/surname/finder.mv?Surname=Bariatinsky

or on this link:http://thepeerage.com/p10223.htm

http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Russian_Royal_Family.htm

Good luck for your search,however perhaps if you know where they go in exil culd you ask into an ambassad service...

I f you could post a shot of the palce you was talking about it would be nice.

Best wishes,
Vassili

[BobG]

Sam,
I would also be grateful if you were able to post any pictures you may have taken of Selbillyan

Also, any further information on your great grandfather would be appreciated. As you may know from this board, there is great interest in his work, especially any information you can share with us about the White Palace at Lividia built for Nicholas and Alexander.  There are a great number of people searching for floorplans of this palace.

It must be wonderful to return to Russia and see work that your great grandfather built still being used and admired today.

Bob G

[Morecambrian]

thank you Hikaru !
Is Anatoly Wladimirovich the one who died in an hospital in Paris ?

Anatole's wife Marie ( he was her second husband)wrote a book published in the 1920's.