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Offline darius

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #300 on: November 29, 2012, 04:14:36 PM »
I believe this incident was commented in the biography.

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #301 on: November 29, 2012, 04:15:24 PM »
Assen Hartenau was in touch with his Battenberg Family. I have 2 Pictures of him visiting Schloss Heiligenberg, one in the courtyard and one with his cousin George Battenberg - around 1907. His Aunt Marie zu Erbach also visited him for his Confirmation, that still must have been in Graz, not sure. I read this in one of her Diaries in the Staatsarchiv.

Marielies Hartenau, Wilhelms Wife, was very fond of her Father in law. Assen seemed to have been a very nice person. I had 2 very nice phone conversations with Frau Hartenau. She was over 90 years old at that time. She send me very nice pictures (copies) of Assen & Zwetana as children and as young adults. Assen looking very cool, smoking and very charming. Zwetana looking very much like Sandro. The pictures where shown at the Sandro Exhibition a few years ago at Schloss Heiligenberg. Since they are private Photos from her family-albums, she gave me the permission to show the pictures at the exhibition and asked me not to used them for anything else. So I wont post them here. But If anyone visits Darmstadt or Schloss Heiligenberg, feel free to contact me. In 2013 the Infocenter at Schloss Heiligenberg will be opened. At the moment The Schloss Heiligenberg Foundation, is very busy working on this project. We are trying to get material and objects for the Center.

Frau Hartenau's daughter also told me, that she still remembers very vividly Lord Mountbatten visiting them with Princess Anne. I think this was in the 60's ?! Not sure on the time.



 
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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #302 on: November 29, 2012, 07:45:12 PM »
Thank you very much for those insights, VN, into this neglected branch of the famous Battenberg clan. The Center sounds wonderful. If things go as we hope, my husband and I will be back in Germany for his last tour in 2013 for a few years. That would be something to visit for sure. :)
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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #303 on: November 29, 2012, 09:46:29 PM »
Yes. Always want to visit this castle but always closed according to my friends. Would love to take this opportunity.

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #304 on: November 30, 2012, 12:59:41 PM »


Countess Hartenau in the late 1920s

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #305 on: November 30, 2012, 06:35:32 PM »
She still looked very charming. I wonder if she ever visited Britain ?

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #306 on: April 01, 2013, 06:29:32 AM »
Countess Hartenau with her children:
http://i47.tinypic.com/1zxbcyg.jpg

And this is picture of a page from Sandro's field diary.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2hrn4mb.jpg

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #307 on: April 01, 2013, 08:35:50 AM »
Thanks. Were these published in a book ?

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #308 on: April 02, 2013, 01:42:12 AM »
Yes, they are from the diary, which has been published in Bulgarian.

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #309 on: April 02, 2013, 06:02:54 AM »
Too bad cannot read Bulgarian or Cyrillic. Is the dairy itself in Bulgaria or Germany ?

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #310 on: April 02, 2013, 07:13:15 AM »
I do not know for sure. But considering the facts that the translator has said that he used the original manuscript and that countess von Hartenau has donated more than 2, 000 personal  belongings of Alexander to the National Museum Of Military History in Bulgaria during the 1930's, it's very likely to be in Bulgaria.
Anyway, Sandro is not Leo Tolstoy when it comes to writing, he is a soldier and he is very laconic. Most of the entries are: I got up, I was invited to luncheon with grand duke X, then we had to advance to point Y.
There are a couple of interesting moments, if you allow me to share them:
1. He has been shocked by the cruelty of the war \massacres of civilians, etc\;
2. He has been through some bad illness. His regiment has been left to starve for almost 2 days, he has written that he was so hungry that he scavenged the backpack of a dead turkish soldier and ate his stale bread. The translator applies that his death may be a postponed result from the horrible privations during this war. \He died from peritonitis. \
3. This one is very indicative of his character. During his vacations he definitely enjoyed the pleasures of life. He writes something like: “At the evening I went to the opera with X and two gorgeous ladies. After that lady Y allow me to escort her home. I returned home at the morning.” Lucky girl, lol.
4. And there was one very awkward situation,  that made me laugh. It’s not a joke at all. He ….  went to relieve himself in the bushes around the camp, when an angry bull came out of nowhere and started chasing him to the tents with the pants open.  And he has written that, I am not making it up. 

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #311 on: April 02, 2013, 06:13:47 PM »
He seemed to be a very interesting character. I wonder if Moretta knew that side of him.

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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #312 on: April 03, 2013, 02:23:32 AM »
I think it was a common knowledge. I've read that Bismark or the kaiser opposed to the marriage with the argument that 'a princess of Prussia will never marry such an ill-bred fellow' or something in the same vein.

If you're interested, here are 2 videos of the Sandro's constant exhibition at the National Museum of Military in Bulgaria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oYQFlhm0Ow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvnsYNyEN0

I do have some pictures of him, which I haven't seen posted here, but wouldn't it be better if I post them in his own topic on the Balkan royalty forum?
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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #313 on: April 03, 2013, 04:33:16 AM »
the diary is in German
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Re: The Battenbergs - discussion, pictures
« Reply #314 on: April 03, 2013, 06:52:23 AM »
Thanks. I thought it would be.