Author Topic: Princess Victoria of Schaumburg-Lippe (Moretta), 2nd daughter of Kaiser Friedrich III  (Read 222261 times)

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Poor Moretta; she looks so worn down, old, haggarded. Few people lose all their younger-years facial characteristics, but she surely changed by the time she married this con man. In addition to her sad looks, the wedding photo must have caused laughter throughout the land. It looks more like a halloween party than a wedding...the old bride in white. Miss Havisham at best.
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True...But she was happy and hopeful. Too bad it did not end up like she would have wished... :'(

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Civil wedding at Bonn and religous wedding at the Schaumburg Palace, Berlin.

(source Marlene Eilers Queen Victoria's Descendants).

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Where did their marriage take place? I'm sure it has been posted, but I cannot remember. Indeed, that is defintely a portrait of Moretta in the background.

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Did the Shaurmburg Palace in Berlin survive WW II ?  ???

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Do you mean the Schaumburg Palace in Bonn? Schaumburg Palace was later the site of the Chancellery of the Federal Republic. In 1951, Chancellor Konrad Adenauer moved his office into the newly redecorated, million-mark Schaumburg palace. "If we want to be a power again," says Adenauer, "we have to look like one."

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Did the Shaurmburg Palace in Berlin survive WW II ?  ???

Still on its place. I've been in Bonn 2 years ago and saw that palace.

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yes, the Schaumburg palace is in Bonn, not Berlin. The palace is beautiful and its use as the seat of government during the Bonn years maintained it in stellar order. during the war, Bonn was on the main attack/invasion route and allied troops crossing the Rhine had much fighting in the city. the city had been "cleared", ie bombed to smitherines essentially, and the palace did sustain some damage, but escaped being ruined.
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Don't think anything left to remind Moretta once lived there... :'(

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That is true, generally, of most historic German residences. If not destroyed in WWII, they were plundered down to the flooring. Very little was left in good form; significant efforts were made, however, over the last 50 years to attempt getting some items returned, but this has been very difficult and somewhat fruitless. Not a good idea to lose a war and hope anyone is going to return the spoils.
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What was her cause of death and are there pictures where she's buried?

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She's buried at Cronberg. She died of illness (heart-related?) that was basically compounded by a lack of will to live any longer.
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Victoria was buried at Burg Kronberg along with her sister Margaret and members of the Hesse-Kassel family.

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By coincidence, started to read those treats this evening and got caught reading them all. So very interesting! Knew already about Moretta and her second marriage which received so much attention at the time and even later.

Thank you very much all of you for this discussion, especially Sebran for his wonderful contribution and sharing your treasures! Very much appreciated!

Additional information which I found in the Dutch translation of Lars Elgklou "Koninklijke minnaars en minnaressen" (original title: "Kungliga gunstlingar och favoriter"):
Translation:
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The couple was married in a Greek Orthodox ceremony on 21 November 1927 in Bonn by Pope Atamantov. Zoubkoff was the son of a Russian millionair en fled the country after the fall of the tsaristic regime. Through this, they didn't have much to live from. For a time he lived in Sweden, where he worked as a movie figure and as a representative of a vacuum cleaner company. Zoubkoff played a small character in Gösta Berlings Saga, the first movie of Greta Garbo.
..."

I am wondering if Alexander Zoubkoff was very 'visible' in this movie.

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I think Moretta was such an attractive girl. She should have had her pick of decent men. :-X

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The problem was that she cannot forget Sandro for a long time... :(