Author Topic: Princess Victoria of Schaumburg-Lippe (Moretta), 2nd daughter of Kaiser Friedrich III  (Read 239197 times)

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Eric_Lowe

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Did you purchaed them ? What I like to know is that what got you interested in this subject ?  ;)

Sebran

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No, I inherited them.

Eric_Lowe

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Really ?  :o I am surprised indeed ! So you are related to the Zoubakoffs ?  :o

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Well, that would certainly add credence to Sebran's statements about Zubkoff's ancestry.  :) If he's related, I'd guess he'd know!
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Sebran

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I am related to the Frykbergs – accordingly to Mary’s Swedish family. Alexander Zoubkoff was my grandfather’s cousin.

I found this photo written to Mary in 1931 (more than a year after Viktorias death), to thank her for a wedding gift. It was written by Sophie or Christopher of Hesse. I guess she knew them through princess Viktoria. It is quite hearty, and it suggests that there might have been persons belonging to the royal families that did not despise the wedding between Viktoria and Alexander as much as others did. Persons who might even have met and talked to Viktorias new husband and mother in law.  Or what do you think?
What was the relationship between princess Viktoria and Sophie and Christhopher of Hesse?



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Christoph of Hesse-Kassel was Viktoria's nephew, a younger son of her sister Mossy. He married Princess Sophie of Greece the youngest daughter of Princess Alice of Battenberg (who had married Prince Andrea of Greece). Christoph and Sophie were married in late 1930.

What does it say in the second portion of the letter after, "hoping to see you some day to be able to thank you in person." And before "and of thanks for your kindness." Anyone know?

It looks like the postcard letter is dated about a month after the wedding and seems to have been written by Christoph (judging by his sig. on the photograph). Although kind and respectful, the note seems like more of a formality than anything else. It seems like little more than common politeness to me. However it is still very interesting to see.  :)
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Eric_Lowe

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Yes but you have to remember that Mary was not royal, but related through marriage. As some would say not "one of us". So that would explain the stress on politeness and not genuine affection.  ::)

Eric_Lowe

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Also of interest is that Mossy was the closet sister and remained supportive of her. Both she and Prince Henry attended Moretta's furneral in Hesse.  :-?

PrinceEddy1864

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Yes, thats true.

I reffered to the use of common politeness to indicate that I don't believe the note shows anything to real about how certain royals (in this case Christoph and Sophie) felt about the Zoubkoffs. It also seems that if Christoph had not met Mary by the time of Moretta's death, that he, or his wife, never met her.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by PrinceEddy1864 »

Eric_Lowe

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Yes...It would be interesting to know if Mossy remained in touch with Mary after Moretta's death.

Sebran

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Aha – How interesting.. I found it among Mary’s belongings. I thought it was Viktoria as it said so on the backside.
I wonder if Mary and Mossy ever met – and (as Erik-Lowe asked) if they remained in touch after Viktoria’s death.

Eric_Lowe

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Indeed it was Mossy ! Princess Sofie (Prince Philip's sister) who married Prince Christoph of Hesse (Mossy's son) wore that set in a photo before it was lost in the war.

The answer to the question would be if there are letters written by Mossy to Mary. Maybe you can dig deeper ?  ::)

Sebran

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No, I haven’t found any. But still, what I have got are only fragments of Mary’s correspondences with different persons.

Eric_Lowe

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I went to Schloss Fasenerie to do research this spring and can confirm that they are indeed Hesse jewels !  ;)

Sebran

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We have got some jewellery in the family which was inherited by Mary Zoubkoff. According to what I know pieces of it belonged to princess Viktoria. Some of them are marked with Koch. Is someone familiar with someone named Koch who made jewellery to the royal family of Hohenzollern?
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