Grand Duke Mikhail Nikolaevitch and his family

[Svetabel]

Olga's eldest sister was Alexandrina, Duchess of Saxe Coburg Gotha. She was nineteen years older than Olga. Did they had some contact? How did Alexandrine felt at the fact that Olga had seven children and herself wasn't blessed with them?

Daniela

I wonder about relations between 2 sisters too. I've been searching for such info but still nothing  .  I don't think they were very close to each other becouse of the great difference in ages. Moreover, Alexandrine was quite an opposite person to Olga (Cecilie), they had absolutely different natures. I guess Olga inherited her mother's personality, GDss Sophie was a notorious intrigante...

[grandduchessella]

Cecile's family

Parents: Grand Duke Leopold of Baden (1790-1852); m.1819 Sophie of Sweden (1801-1865)
 
Siblings:

1) Alexandrine (1820-1904); m.1842 Duke Ernst II of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (sister-in-law to Queen Victoria)

2) Ludwig Karl Friedrich Leopold (Oct 1822-Nov 1822)

3) Grand Duke Ludwig II of Baden (1824-1858)

4) Grand Duke Friedrich I of Baden (1826-1907); m.1856 Luise of Prussia (Vicky's sister-in-law)

5)Wilhelm (1829-1897); m.1863 Maria Romanowsky (1841-1914)

6) Karl (1832-1906); m.(morgantically) 1871 Rosalie Luise von Beust, created 1871 Grafin von Rhena

7) Marie Amalie (1834-1899); m.1858 Ernst Furst zu Leiningen (QV's nephew who lived a good deal in England)

Nieces/Nephews:

Friedrich I's children:

Grand Duke Friedrich II of Baden (1857-1928); m. 1885 Hilda of Nassau, Pss of Luxemburg (this is 'good' Fritz that QV wanted Ella to marry)

Victoria (1862-1930); m.1881 Gustaf V of Sweden (her cousin Nikolai Mikhailovich wanted to marry her but couldn't because they were first cousins)

Ludwig (1865-1888)

Ludwig's children:

Marie (1865-1939); m. 1889 Friedrich, Duke of Anhalt

Maximilian (1867-1929); m.1900 Marie Luise of Hannover(Thyra's daughter and MF's niece; this is the Max of Baden who was engaged to Helen Vladimirovna)

Marie-Amelie's children:

Emich Furst zu Leiningen (1866-1939); m.1894 Feodore zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg (his son would marry Ducky's daughter Marie; both Emich and Feodore were related to Queen Victoria and Emich was actually born at Osborne, as was a sister, Alberta, who lived less than a year)

So Cecile had quite a few connections to QV and QV actually wrote favorably of her and GD Michael when they visited England, probably on a visit to Ernst and Marie, both of whom were very close to QV--and QV wasn't easily impressed by Romanov males.

[Gretchen]

Hello,

I would like to see some pictures of GD Serge Michailovich (1869-1918)
The only picture I could found:

[grandduchessella]

[LisaG]

Can anyone tell me how Alexis died and if there are any pictures of him?  (The one above doesn't show up anymore.)  Thanks so much!

[grandduchessella]

Can anyone tell me how Alexis died and if there are any pictures of him?  (The one above doesn't show up anymore.)  Thanks so much!

Charlotte Zeepvat wrote that he came down with a severe chill but was later revealed to have tuberculosis and had suffered ill health for quite awhile. His condition eventually worsened and he was sent to San Remo to help his health along--this was where the future Emperor Frederick III went for his cancer as well. He died not long after.





There's another photo in Camera and the Tsars.

[Svetabel]

I had posted this picture a loooong ago , guess the thread is gone, so once again.

The Mikhailovichi. You can see GD Alexey M. in the bottom of the pic, at left, sitting on the ground in front of his father.

[ashanti01]

Grand Duke Sergei

[Svetabel]

Grand Duchess Olga Fedorovna and one of her sons

[GDNastya]

Grand Duchess Olga Feodorovna

[grandduchessella]

Cecile's family

Parents: Grand Duke Leopold of Baden (1790-1852); m.1819 Sophie of Sweden (1801-1865)
 
Siblings:

1) Alexandrine (1820-1904); m.1842 Duke Ernst II of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (sister-in-law to Queen Victoria)

2) Ludwig Karl Friedrich Leopold (Oct 1822-Nov 1822)

3) Grand Duke Ludwig II of Baden (1824-1858)

4) Grand Duke Friedrich I of Baden (1826-1907); m.1856 Luise of Prussia (Vicky's sister-in-law)

5)Wilhelm (1829-1897); m.1863 Maria Romanowsky (1841-1914)

6) Karl (1832-1906); m.(morgantically) 1871 Rosalie Luise von Beust, created 1871 Grafin von Rhena

7) Marie Amalie (1834-1899); m.1858 Ernst Furst zu Leiningen (QV's nephew who lived a good deal in England)

Nieces/Nephews:

Friedrich I's children:

Grand Duke Friedrich II of Baden (1857-1928); m. 1885 Hilda of Nassau, Pss of Luxemburg (this is 'good' Fritz that QV wanted Ella to marry)

Victoria (1862-1930); m.1881 Gustaf V of Sweden (her cousin Nikolai Mikhailovich wanted to marry her but couldn't because they were first cousins)

Ludwig (1865-1888)

Ludwig's children:

Marie (1865-1939); m. 1889 Friedrich, Duke of Anhalt

Maximilian (1867-1929); m.1900 Marie Luise of Hannover(Thyra's daughter and MF's niece; this is the Max of Baden who was engaged to Helen Vladimirovna)

Marie-Amelie's children:

Emich Furst zu Leiningen (1866-1939); m.1894 Feodore zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg (his son would marry Ducky's daughter Marie; both Emich and Feodore were related to Queen Victoria and Emich was actually born at Osborne, as was a sister, Alberta, who lived less than a year)

So Cecile had quite a few connections to QV and QV actually wrote favorably of her and GD Michael when they visited England, probably on a visit to Ernst and Marie, both of whom were very close to QV--and QV wasn't easily impressed by Romanov males.

[grandduchessella]

Photos courtesy of Gem 10

[Svetabel]

I've been meaning to start a thread on this Grand Duchess for some months . But as always it happens I don't have enough  time.

Some time ago I did a special research on Olga Fedorovna as I was much intrigued by her person. Personally I am very interested in controversial characters and don't like to label historical figures only "black" or "white". Most of the contemporaries of the Grand Duchess as many historians thought Olga Fedorovna just a high-society sharp-tongued lady without any other hobbies but gossiping and caring about privileges for her children.
The facts on her are mainly from the very subjective journals of Alexander Polovtsov, State Secretary in the Alexander III's reign. Polovtzov was a witty and very-well educated person with ambitions close to the Imperial Family, Alexander III trusted him. But at the same time Polovtzov was a definite misantrope who thought too much of himself and his intelligence, so he often judged people too severe and one-sidedly and we can't trust to all his words, revelations and judgements. Well, this Polovtov left us a portrait of the Grand Duchess such like this: acid-tongued, quarrelsome,living in idleness (wihout any social duties such as charity  for example) woman who did nothing but sitting in her palace on the bank of the Neva river and gazing through the window onto the walking people and speaking nasty things about them. Also she considered most of her sons fools and she freely called them so in the front of the other people...She quarreled with Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, told dirty stories about Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovitch..all in all she just adored to  add fresh fuel in quarrels and enjoyed it. Not a nice portrait of the Grand Duchess as you see..And by the way the same Polovtzov after Olga Fedorovna's death admitted that she had been of course not an angel but anyway a clever woman but without much education.

Some new facts I found in my research on Olga Fedorovna's life, for example, that she did take part in a social work when being in the Caucasus.

[Marc]

Thank you Svetabel for that...who would say that she that ''bad''...she has,or rather had such a mild facial expression...Very strange for a woman who was mocked allways by rumors to be that nasty...

[Svetabel]

Olga Fedorovna