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Offline James1941

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Re: Communist people we like
« Reply #90 on: December 10, 2006, 01:37:42 PM »
Much as I hate to do so I must agree with Zvezda about Cuba. It was in fact almost an American fiefdom. The American companies who held property in Cuba, using bribery to get corrupt officials to agree, had their property valued at far below the real value. This meant they paid only a small fraction of the taxes they should have. When the Castro government began its nationalization program it offered to buy the property at its offical evalutation. The companies, of course, screamed bloody murder because they were being "cheated" of the true worth. What hypocrisy.
The Cuban exiles were mainly the wealthy who had for years either actively supported the corrupt dictators or remained silent because they were doing well under the sytem. That they should yell "dictatorship" at Castro is laughable.
The American sanctions and boycott of Cuba have done nothing to overthrow the communist regime but done great harm to the ordinary Cubans. We should abandon it and open normal relations and see what happens.

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Re: Communist people we like
« Reply #91 on: March 23, 2007, 11:43:39 PM »
Mayakovsky  :)


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« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2007, 04:21:31 PM »
Gorbachev (Perestroika/Glasnost), Krushchev.  Krushchev was a decent leader in his attempts to bring the USSR into a new realm and out of the paranoid soviet state Stalin left behind.

Marx and Engles.  Particularly the latter of this group, their writings though radical for their time, even now to an extent...were very convincing and complete in their mission

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Re: Communist people we like
« Reply #93 on: May 01, 2007, 08:09:20 AM »
Seeing as it is the 1st May..... Rosa Luxemburg is my "favourite communist"...very astute, deeply committed, extremely brave and was brutally mudered for her beliefs.

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« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2007, 11:38:04 AM »
Marx did not see himself as a communist, he actually disliked the people who called themselves "communists".  The label communist was put on him after his death.
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« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2007, 11:49:12 AM »
In that case the Communist Manifesto should be re-titled as The Socialist or Marxist Manifesto. 

After all, Marx did believe that Capitalism would fall underneath the pressure of Socialism hence creating the grounds of Communism. 

"Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence." -Marx in The German Ideology

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Re: Communist people we like
« Reply #96 on: May 18, 2007, 02:13:52 PM »
I like Lenin. and childhood I was very angry on him - he killed Nicholas!

 now I'm still being a little angry on him but he is very interesting/

I'm reading a book about him and I really like it.
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« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2007, 10:57:08 PM »
comrade prince Dmitri Petrovich Mirsky:


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« Reply #98 on: June 22, 2007, 07:31:28 AM »
i find most interesting, rosa luxembourg and frida kahlo

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« Reply #99 on: June 24, 2007, 08:44:24 AM »
I believe there is a difference between finding someone interesting and liking someone.
There are a lot of people that I find interesting, but that doesn't meen I like them, like Wittgenstein.
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Re: Communist people we like
« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2007, 09:16:01 PM »
This thread, in my opinion, is a total disgrace! It's only redeeming virtue is that it gives anti-communists the opportunity to debunk communist and left wing misinformation, breathtaking lies and hypocrisy, and the double standards of a leftist media.
Communism is responsible for the death of 100 million in the past century. Those who followed Communism knew full well that Lenin and Stalin had killed over 30 million of their own people. Don't delude yourselves into thinking otherwise. Please read Koba The Dread Laughter And The Twenty Million by Martin Amis, dealing with Stalin's crimes in particular. It deals with the indulgence of communism by intellectuals in the West, much as we're seeing here. This is appalling! 
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« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2007, 11:56:58 PM »
Please read Koba The Dread Laughter And The Twenty Million by Martin Amis, dealing with Stalin's crimes in particular.

Ah, yes.  Martin Amis.  The British author who is currently busying himself with tirades against Islam.  The author who maintains a second home in Uruguary, which he often charactizes as idyllic.  The same Uruguary that Amis has characterized, along with Chile, as one of the two most civilized countries in South America.  The same Uruguay whose military dictators forced one-tenth of the population into exile in the 1970's . . . that had the highest number of citizens per capita in political prisions in the world . . . where physical and psychological torture were routinely used . . . where large numbers of "disappeared" citizens have long since been despaired of by relatives . . . and where amnesty was granted to all involved in these crimes.  The same Uruguay that today has an unemployment rate near 20% and almost 40% of the population living in poverty.

Amis seems to get much more hung up on the ideology of some dictatorships than on the brutality of all dictatorships.

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« Reply #102 on: August 18, 2007, 12:58:47 AM »

I see...since the substance of Amis' treatment of Communism and Stalin's crimes along with the leftist "intellectuals" in the West and other useful idiots who indulged in Communism cannot be disputed, all that's left is to attack Amis personally. There are a few other useful idiots in this forum, sadly, who praise the dictator Castro and paint a rosey picture of  life in Communist Cuba--if you ignore the draw cells, executions, political prisoners and the fact that's there been no free elections in Cuba for over 40 years--it's splendid! Liberalism is a mental disorder. 
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« Reply #103 on: August 18, 2007, 01:53:03 AM »

Yes--one more thing--you mean Amis' "tirades" against Islamist extremism, terrorism and intolerance. Let's clear the record. Shall we?
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« Reply #104 on: August 18, 2007, 03:07:05 AM »
Cuba was in a truly appalling state before Castro. It is worth reading about Batista and his crimes against his own peoples and the previous regimes. They don't make comfortable reading. Communism was only possible in the Soviet Union due to the complete collapse of Tsardom. Sadly when evolution does not take place, revolution does. This can be seen throughout the history of mankind. No one doubts how awful the excesses of Communism were. It was not all bad though. Russia was dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world. I do not take sides on this. Just realise it was not all bad.