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Offline LisaDavidson

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2008, 10:19:10 PM »
Maria Feodorovna was the last reigning empress prior to Alexandra. She was member of the ruling house of a close neighbor nation. Compared to Grand Duchess Elizabeth, who was not an empress, whose house is no longer ruling, there is no one who Russia cares about as a nation who would complain about the shameful way her wishes are disregarded.

The only person who might be able to change this would be the Duke of Edinburgh, but regardless of his personal feelings, would be constrained from doing so because he is married to a constitional monarch. The D of E is of course her grand nephew, but I don't see the UK being okay with this.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2008, 11:05:26 PM »
"Reigning Empress", Lisa ?

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« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2008, 01:34:35 AM »
"Reigning Empress", Lisa ?

Well, how would you put it? She was crowned Empress and fulfilled the duties - perhaps not the best terms - but it could be argued that VM was "Empress" and I know no one is going to honor Alexandra.

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« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2008, 10:04:29 AM »
The Empress was more properly the Crowned Consort. The only "reining" Empresses were  the 2 Catherines, Anna & Elizabeth. Some would credit Anna Leoploldovna as well, but more correctly, in my view, she  was more "regent", like Sophia.

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2008, 11:26:14 AM »
this is a for lisa many apologies if you thought it was inappropriate to mention buxhoeven and gibbes in this topic area but it had been mentioned earlier in the thread.
Also as regards mentioning carbon dating what i should possibly have stressed that there are other tests that it is helpful to do alongside dna testing to help  verify and confirm   along also with forensic pathology which of course was done etc etc particularily when dna, in scientific terms ,was in its infancy. coming from a medical/science background i have found the more information the better the chances of proper 'diagnosis'

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2008, 02:37:24 PM »
this is a for lisa many apologies if you thought it was inappropriate to mention buxhoeven and gibbes in this topic area but it had been mentioned earlier in the thread.
Also as regards mentioning carbon dating what i should possibly have stressed that there are other tests that it is helpful to do alongside dna testing to help  verify and confirm   along also with forensic pathology which of course was done etc etc particularily when dna, in scientific terms ,was in its infancy. coming from a medical/science background i have found the more information the better the chances of proper 'diagnosis'

Not at all inappropriate. It was intended to be a gentle reminder to stay on topic, also to invite you to discuss Buxhoeveden and Gibbes on another. Welcome!

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2008, 01:47:45 PM »
http://www.searchfoundationinc.org/New-Press-Release.html

>>Official DNA results will be announced on December 5, 2008 from Ekaterinburg.
Dr. Michael Coble, Chief Scientist of the U.S. Army DNA Laboratory will present  results of the DNA tests done on the Romanov family remains by his laboratory.

The Director of the Sverdlovsk Regional Forensic Bureau, Dr.  N. Nevolin will present the results of the first DNA studies of  blood samples from Emperor Nicholas II. <<

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2008, 08:17:01 AM »
Alexei and Maria remains confirmed to be authentic by Americans -- in Russian

http://www.justmedia.ru/news/society/2008/12/05/47997
http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2008/12/05/2140032

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2008, 08:22:00 AM »
Has anything in English been released also? I can read azbuka, but don´t know many words....

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2008, 08:47:50 AM »
Yes -- I have just found this:

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=5451

They compared DNA of Alexei Nicholaievich and Anrei Romanov.
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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2008, 09:34:22 AM »
Thank you Nena! I´m going the spread the good news on other webs I know.

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« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2008, 09:49:39 AM »
That is great news. Finaly the hole family can rest togheter in the grave in Peter and Paul Catedral

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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2008, 05:55:27 AM »
I just don't know how to feel about this.

I mean, I completely believe the DNA results. It's clear that these latest remains did belong to Alexei and Anastasia (or Marie). And of course the remains of their parents, sisters, and several family servants were found and buried several years ago. So, all of the family is now accounted for.

I'm glad about that, since at least now the youngest Romanovs will have a decent burial and be with the rest of their family, as they should be.

But on the other hand...while we all now know that all the so-called claimants (Alexei, Anastasia, Marie, etc) were not members of the Imperial Family, it still kind of makes me sad to know for a fact that no one survived that horrible night in 1918.

I would have liked to believe that at least one of them got away... :'(
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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #73 on: December 09, 2008, 09:57:31 AM »
The one good thing that all off them know have been found. Is that we can stop hearing from those people who keep saying somebody survived. Even if it was a terribel thing that happend to them. I think it is good that it is finaly over and nobody can say that anybody survived. Sadly they all died that nigth becuse the only way anybody could have survived was if they did not go in to the house. Finaly they can all rest in peace togheter


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Re: The Remains Identified as Alexei and Maria. Story Closed.
« Reply #74 on: December 14, 2008, 02:35:18 PM »
as some people said in my topic ' no survivors-sad' it would have been life shattering if you had survived and all your family was murdered. it would probably drive you insane :(