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« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2008, 10:42:08 AM »
LOL. That's another thing, she had no money! She and Gibbes took out some kind of loan together and she didn't pay it and he was mad at her.As they traveled across Siberia money was always a problem. I am pretty sure she had to get her Dad to wire money for her trip home. She sure endured a lot of hardship, financial trouble, and living in fear of her life for over a year on the run for somebody who allegedly stole money and betrayed the family for her own safety ::)

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« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2008, 10:45:48 AM »
Thank you, a lot, sgc! R.I.P. NAOTMAA and servants followed you.......

Did you notice the small bloodstain in the lower middle part of the picture? Talk about a piece of history.

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« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2008, 10:58:51 AM »
i wonder who's blood it was

Annie

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« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2008, 11:00:24 AM »
Let's do a DNA test on it! ;)

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« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2008, 12:33:18 PM »
lol. dreams and fairytales.........

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« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2008, 01:54:31 PM »
No...I've never noticed it before.........
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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2008, 03:30:02 AM »
Here you go...this is a much better scan than the one you already have.









Does anyone know what this inscription says?

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2008, 03:33:37 AM »
Isn't it the one that says 'Belchazar kileld by his servants' or something like that? I can't remember exactly but I remember someone wrote it down - but I could be wrong here
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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2008, 03:36:46 AM »
If the quote was near the window as I recall the blood maybe the Empresses as she was sat close to the window but without DNA we will not know of course.

i wonder who's blood it was
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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2008, 04:01:51 AM »
yes it could be alexandra's blood or tatiana/olga as well if i remember correctly they were stood behind their mother?

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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2008, 04:04:29 AM »
Yes, fascinating subject. But still haunting

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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2008, 04:14:18 AM »
i agree

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« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2008, 04:17:04 AM »
Tom you are correct they were stood behind their Mother. All three would probably fallen backwards, and we know the daughters did not die in the first volley, unless the Empress went sideways depending on the angle of the bullets that hit her. Also if the Empress was killed by a bullet to the head as has been suggested there may not have been a great deal of blood unless there was also an exit wound. The fact that there is not a great deal of blood on this wall suggests that either the spray pattern went in another direction or there was not an exit wound to produce a great deal. High velocity blood splatter leaves a fine spray only.



yes it could be alexandra's blood or tatiana/olga as well if i remember correctly they were stood behind their mother?
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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2008, 04:41:50 AM »
Tom you are correct they were stood behind their Mother. All three would probably fallen backwards, and we know the daughters did not die in the first volley, unless the Empress went sideways depending on the angle of the bullets that hit her. Also if the Empress was killed by a bullet to the head as has been suggested there may not have been a great deal of blood unless there was also an exit wound. The fact that there is not a great deal of blood on this wall suggests that either the spray pattern went in another direction or there was not an exit wound to produce a great deal. High velocity blood splatter leaves a fine spray only.

according to FOTR she was hit in the head and the amount of brain and tissue wich came of an exit wound on the right side of her head and she slammed against the floor 'in a shower of brain and gore'. but i think the window was on her left-so it might not be her blood.

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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2008, 10:44:07 AM »
Baltatsar was killed in that night by his servants.....--note on Ipatiev's cellar wall.....
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