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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #135 on: March 23, 2009, 08:20:07 AM »
Icons looks older/different sometimes, becaus they would look in that way in heaven. I can't see a difference.  ::)  ;). And, Russian site labeled it as 'Nicholas II and family'.


 

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« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2009, 03:58:46 PM »
Attention "nena" :  I am fascinated and puzzled by your comment on an icon shown here (Reply #129, and originally alleged to be that of the last Imperial Family), that you have described as (quote) " Showed as older persons here, it is way how they would look in Heaven."  I have never seen an icon showing a young person aged, because " how they would look in Heaven."  In that case all the YOUNGER saints would / could likewise be depicted as older men/women.  Is this a belief of Serbian Orthodoxy art alone, or is it common in ALL Orthodoxy?  I will appreciate what you can tell us about this unique (?) concept.  I have collected Russiaan and Greek icons for years and have not seen this "age-progression" concept.     Best regards,   AP
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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #137 on: March 23, 2009, 05:39:43 PM »
You mean like patrons with their names? St. Anastasia, St. Maria.... and so on?

yes.  :) ;)

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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #138 on: March 24, 2009, 09:47:24 AM »
I promise I will ask my teacher about it, and if I was wrong, my apologies to ALL, OK?  :-[ Yes, Serbian, Greek and Russian Orthodox Church have little differences.

It also depends who painted icon, and what he/she meant. But, like I said, I'll ask my teacher. 

Ally, here is the biggest and clearest you was looking for:



I wnated to say, all icons shows martyrs/Saints how they would look in Heaven.
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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #139 on: March 24, 2009, 09:50:01 AM »
Thank you!

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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #140 on: March 24, 2009, 09:29:52 PM »
Mandie is absolutely right - the icon is of the patron Saints of the Imperial Family - for example, the old bearded man is dressed as a Patriarch, and the St Nicholas is the famous St Nicholas of Myra in Lycia. The icon looks like an old one, maybe it was a Family Icon (showing the family's patron Saints) that belonged to the IF?

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« Reply #141 on: March 25, 2009, 09:14:21 AM »
My sincere apologies for mistake I made.  :-[

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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #142 on: March 25, 2009, 09:31:26 AM »
Beautiful new one Nena.

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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #143 on: March 25, 2009, 10:17:21 AM »
Cannot edit the last post...

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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #144 on: March 25, 2009, 10:19:11 AM »
Thank you for the feedback, "nena" !     Best regards,  AP

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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2009, 11:01:10 AM »
Is this new?


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« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2009, 11:03:46 AM »
Ops!...I have seen right now that this is not new, I'm sorry!

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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #147 on: March 27, 2009, 09:27:42 AM »
Imperial family


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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #148 on: March 27, 2009, 04:57:31 PM »
As promised, I asked my teacher about icon, and he showed me quotes from Bible, (apostle Paul's quote), which say about resurrection of dead people, etc.

According to its, there is no matches to be as Imperial Family portraits, since all icons show people in way of looking they looked just before their end.

So, he also states, that portrait highly might an icon, since he thinks rules of portraying icons are not respected,  and was painted by individual will of painter (as painter liked to be painted). Hope things are clear now. 

Also, he states , portraying younger people as older, do not match with their historical existing at all.
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Re: Imperial Icons
« Reply #149 on: April 19, 2009, 03:54:34 PM »
New one: