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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #300 on: September 15, 2009, 01:11:27 AM »
If I got right from the other sources on this find the jewellery box had not contained anything really exciting like tiaras, streams of pearls and such like. The items are cigarette boxes, cuff links, pins and many other small jewellery - of course very rare and unique.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #301 on: September 15, 2009, 01:17:25 PM »
Estimates are its worth is about 2 million pounds. Proceeds to go to her descendants.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #302 on: September 15, 2009, 07:30:51 PM »

wow!!  that's about 3.3 million dollars

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #304 on: November 17, 2009, 07:27:42 AM »
How amazing, makes one wonder how many other items like these may be squirrelled away somewhere.
Beautiful Faberge pieces, especially the cigarette cases and cufflinks. Leaves me breathless.

Does anyone know who the descendants are, who have "inherited' all these wonderful things ?

I would imagine the 2 pillow cases were used to transport all this stuff out of Russia ?   

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« Reply #305 on: November 17, 2009, 09:47:56 AM »
interesting that it lay so many years into dusted boxes...

I think there are some descendants left eg the kent's branch (from Helen) must be about 100 - 200 people

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #306 on: November 17, 2009, 10:06:32 AM »
what wonderful things. Wish I could buy some of them especially the box with the note from the Tsar
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #307 on: November 17, 2009, 02:10:31 PM »
The descendants would include the descendants of Kirill and Helen.  Kirill has 2 lliving descendants: granddaughter, Maria and great-grandson George.
Helen's descendants are from her three daughters:
Olga who married Paul of Yugoslavia
Marina who married the duke of Kent
and Elisabeth who married the Count of Toerring Jettenbach

How amazing, makes one wonder how many other items like these may be squirrelled away somewhere.
Beautiful Faberge pieces, especially the cigarette cases and cufflinks. Leaves me breathless.

Does anyone know who the descendants are, who have "inherited' all these wonderful things ?

I would imagine the 2 pillow cases were used to transport all this stuff out of Russia ?   
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #308 on: November 17, 2009, 09:26:34 PM »
Aren't some of Kirill's other descendants, via Kyra and Marie, still living? Kyra certainly had a large family! I wonder if we'll see any items show up on Princess Michael? : )
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #309 on: November 18, 2009, 04:30:02 AM »
Kirill's descedants include Priinces and Princesses von Leiningen,Princes and Princesses of Yugoslavia,Princes and Princesses von Hohenzollern,Priinces and Princesses of Prussia,Dukes and Duchesses von Oldenburg,von Bismarcks and of course Grand Duchess Marie of Russia and her son among many other living ones...

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #310 on: November 18, 2009, 07:32:31 AM »
Well the proceeds are going to spread very thinly, are they not ? So many people, so little jewellery !!

I think it may have been better if it was left to a museum.

After 91 years, for each of these people to recieve a pittance each, it hardly seems worth it.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #311 on: November 18, 2009, 09:04:56 AM »
I agree, Pavlov.  They are just "trinkets" after all.  No shatteringly  historical art works, like a missing Faberge egg. There are probably as many items as there are heirs. By the time commissions and premiums are  taken, not to mention TAXES, I doubt that there will  be much to actually disperse. A museum or if needs be, a donation to charity if even that could be decided upon. In any case, best of luck to the lot of them at the table.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #312 on: November 18, 2009, 01:30:53 PM »

Sort of funny............  outside ravage and revolution.... and the old bag has nothing better to do than grabbing her cigaretteboxes and cuff links together =)

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #313 on: November 18, 2009, 01:42:15 PM »
One could look at it that way, TH, but think about it- if your house is on fire and going to burn down, what would you  grab ? [after the living critters, I mean].

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #314 on: November 18, 2009, 02:21:18 PM »
I just meant that there is such an incredibly large gap between the sufferings of millions which caused that revolution - and the fussiness of hiding those stupid metal and stone things in a pillow... (AND to forget them - after all.......) *lol*