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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #435 on: January 08, 2012, 10:15:36 PM »
Very flattering.  :)

I agree...In this portrait we are seeinga really beatiful and regal lady...but she doesn't like anything like the real Miechen. Just my little thoughts there... ;D

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« Reply #436 on: January 09, 2012, 10:52:39 AM »
It might be painted by her command as gift to her family. That is why you see the good side. :-)

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #437 on: March 23, 2012, 04:19:22 PM »

Screen shot from "The Royal Jewels".

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« Reply #438 on: March 24, 2012, 11:31:38 AM »
The face of ambition and power...

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« Reply #439 on: March 24, 2012, 06:53:27 PM »
the face of greed, deception, and lies...too...dont forget that Eric.

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« Reply #440 on: March 25, 2012, 10:41:24 AM »
I don't know about deception. Miechen had been very open about her ambition and opposition to the throne headed by her nephew Nicholas II. She considered him weak and ineffective (he was) and thought her family was better than that (she was wrong).Without Alexander III to rein them in, her opposition was pretty much to the surface.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #441 on: March 25, 2012, 01:19:52 PM »


GD Maria c. 1874

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« Reply #442 on: March 26, 2012, 07:06:09 AM »
She was nice looking but no beauty.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #443 on: March 27, 2012, 05:20:54 AM »
I sense a chill about her in this portrait. I dont know but in most of her pics...she looked as if she had this mean streak about her.

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« Reply #444 on: March 27, 2012, 07:15:15 AM »
She was formidable there was no doubt.

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« Reply #445 on: March 28, 2012, 01:26:37 AM »
I'll drink to that lol

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #446 on: March 28, 2012, 01:39:59 AM »
I actually believe GD Maria was attractive in her youth. Granted she wasn't a celebrated beauty like other members of royalty but in photos of her youth, she actually appears pretty.  I have to admit, she is one of those characters I wish more was written about. 



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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #447 on: March 29, 2012, 04:32:01 PM »
She was out for what she could get, as were a lot of Grand Duke's wives, especially the morganatic ones.


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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #448 on: March 29, 2012, 09:17:15 PM »
a little bit of topic but I'll get to my point -

A lot of great and grand women married into the Imperial Romanov House, to me the most humble of them all -Grand Duchess to marry into the family- NOT Ella of Hesse but  Duchess Alexandra Petrovna of Oldenburg (Grand Duchess Nicholas the elder), a Russian born German Duchess and and a  great-granddaughter of Tsar Paul I, whom was a plain, unsophisticated and saintly person from the very start. she became a nun as 'Sister Anastasia' taking Holy Orders on 3 November 1889 in Kiev, while her husband was still alive.

While Maria Pavlovian the Elder was the opposite- ambitious, charming, stylish and greedy. besides her nasty habits, i do like her, very intersting person.

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« Reply #449 on: March 30, 2012, 05:12:21 PM »
Yes. She was a very fascinating person. She was well dressed, clever and had great charm when she exercised it. One must not forget Miechen was one of those who persuaded Alix of Hesse to marry Nicholas. She did it for sinister reasons (Alix's family has the dreaded "family" disease, and that will increase the chances of her sons to move closer to the throne). Nonetheless she was successful. She also played matchmaker for "Foxy" Ferdinand of Bulgaria.