Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir

[Valmont]

All the diamonds went to her daugther after GD Vladimir's death. The Vladimir tiara was bought by Queen Mary. Does anyone know what happened to this tiara?.

[Luc]

Does anyone have maybe a detailed picture of Miechen and Elena at the coronation of Nicholas II in 1896 ? 

[grandduchessella]

[Luc]

Is the first picture maybe the photo of Miechen and Elena at the coronation ?

[Maria_Pavlovna]

I wonder if Miechen got along with her son-in-law, Prince Nicholas? or what did he thought of his mother in law?

I have his memoirs.. somewhere... but can anyone get quick info?

[Eric_Lowe]

She liked him personally, but hate the fact he was only a younger son of the King of Greece. The money and prestiege issue was never far from her culculated mind. I was told that actually her deallings were more economic than political (making deals left and right). She would make as good ceo today, Even Putin would have been impressed...

[Alexandre64]

Pin:


Tiara:


Egret:

[mitia]

Well, I feel I have to add that GD Vladimir also managed to bring back from Russia her last pied french bulldog, who survived her and was adopted by her son Andrei who, in his turn, also had other frenchies in his life. Though I am not 100 % sure, I think that the name of this pied frenchie that MP the elder brought back from Russia into France, was Spot, a rather common name for a dog in those days. Maybe our dear AG Bear can confirm this ?

[Alexandre64]

Miechen and children:

[Alexandre64]

[Carolath Habsburg]

Wonderful Miechen!

[Svetabel]

Wonderful Miechen seemed look pretty only in the photos. Many contemporaries said that GDss Maria Pavlovan-elder (Miechen, if a Romanov was describing her) was a corpulent lady who often looked ill and too fat for her age. GDss Xenia A. in her letter to a friend told how flabby Miechen tried to pose elegantly on horseback: that was funny and somewhat shockingly...At the same time Miehen's husband didn't care about his spouse's weight and adored her in any state.

[Eric_Lowe]

I don't think of Miechen as fat, more fleshy I think. "Fat Mary" (Duchess of Teck) and Isabel II are more into the fat catagory.

[Svetabel]

I don't think of Miechen as fat, more fleshy I think.

You don't think but some those who knew her personally did think.

[Eric_Lowe]

As long as her husband did not complain, Miechen could do as she wanted. There are aways fault finding people around. QV said of Alix of Denmark "As flat as a board", while others describe Missy of Romania's hair as "yellow" rather than golden...