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« Reply #360 on: June 14, 2010, 10:22:48 AM »
nice to see, her famous pearl necklace. does someone has some info about this?

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« Reply #361 on: July 04, 2010, 12:18:38 PM »
nice to see, her famous pearl necklace. does someone has some info about this?
The necklace seems to have been dismantled and divided amongst her descendants.Princess Alexandra wore a much reduced version in her younger days with 2 of the pendants as earrings.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #362 on: August 06, 2010, 07:49:15 AM »
Maria Pavlovna and her children in 1887-1888 years


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« Reply #363 on: August 06, 2010, 10:24:56 AM »
Love that photo. I think that's the thinnest I have her seen her in photos. Not bad after having five children.

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« Reply #364 on: August 06, 2010, 11:43:51 AM »
Remember she was wearing corsets.

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« Reply #365 on: August 06, 2010, 12:22:17 PM »
Yes, but in photos ranging from early in her marriage to the 1900's, her weight would go up and down. GD Maria had health issues which I believe contributed to her weight gain.When you are heavy, a corset can only do so much. But in the last photo posted, it's one of the slimmest of her I've seen and it's not just the corset at work. Even her face appears thinner.

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« Reply #366 on: August 10, 2010, 08:32:02 AM »
Perhaps all those 20 course dinner parties she gave !

I dont care what people say about her, I still think she would have made a good Empress. She certainly had everything going for her, and would have done a much better job than Alexandra.

Pity about her children though.

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« Reply #367 on: August 10, 2010, 11:03:12 AM »
I have to agree, with PAVLOV. The role of Empress would have fit the Grand Duchess like a glove.

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« Reply #368 on: August 10, 2010, 11:17:11 PM »
Remember she was wearing corsets.

Yes. But even if you are wearing a corset, it cannot make your arms thinner. And in this pic, Miechen's arms are those of a rather thin person. If you wants to know if a woman from back then was slender or it's the corset who is fooling your eyes  ;D , just look at her arms. If they are quite thin, it's probable that the woman was also thin. If not, you'll notice a woman with a little waist and enormous arms...

You must also remember that back then, corsets were worn not only for women waist looks thinner, but to keep their figure well-shaped. Some girls would even sleep wearing their corset just to keep a slender figure. They would wear it as nowadays "modelators" (I don't know how to say it in English, I mean like modern corsets to shape your figure). Just think almost all woman back then would wear corsets, slender or not.

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« Reply #369 on: August 16, 2010, 10:05:55 PM »

1910 Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna in the front row

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« Reply #370 on: August 27, 2010, 08:18:28 PM »
Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna. I'm afraid I haven't been able to find a better version of this image.


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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-elder, wife of GD Wladimir
« Reply #371 on: August 31, 2010, 03:13:52 AM »
Portarit of Maria Pavlovna,based on a photo, by Kharitonov


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« Reply #372 on: August 31, 2010, 05:31:19 AM »
That's a great painting Svetabel :)  I assume it's a period painting and not a modern one? It's interesting to see the colours chosen for the awards etc she is wearing...but I would have thought the sash would be blue rather than red?  isn't that the colour worn by the ladies for the award they were given in the imperial family (the name of it slips my mind at the moment)

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« Reply #373 on: August 31, 2010, 07:56:15 AM »
Could be a new one ? The new one of Ella is not colour co-ordinated too.

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« Reply #374 on: August 31, 2010, 11:44:57 PM »
That's a great painting Svetabel :)  I assume it's a period painting and not a modern one? It's interesting to see the colours chosen for the awards etc she is wearing...but I would have thought the sash would be blue rather than red?  isn't that the colour worn by the ladies for the award they were given in the imperial family (the name of it slips my mind at the moment)

That could be a portrait by Nikolai Kharitonov (1880-1944), quite famous a painter before 1917 and even in his exile, in New-York.