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Sarai_Porretta

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Re: A Life for the Tsarevitch
« on: December 07, 2004, 07:41:20 AM »
I do recall reading, and perhaps someone can confirm this with a source, that Alexandra once laughingly said that she feared the day she would have to pass on her jewels to her son's wife. I mention this because it is the only time I remember reading of Alexandra making any mention as to her son's future wife.

Of course, we also know that she was constantly thinking about his future, and wanting to assure that a strong throne was passed on to him. So she certainly believed that Alexei would one day rule. Yet some chalk this up to just being wishful thinking and denial on her part.

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Re: A Life for the Tsarevitch
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2004, 07:09:33 PM »
 :)  A true Sunbeam.  Just as much a life in progress as those of his sisters until 7/17/18.  We tend to forget this because in the aftermath of the murders this handsome boy's beautiful sisters get the lion's share of the press - the way he once did in life by virtue of being 'the Heir!  the Heir!'



A couple of things weigh in here to me:  

1.  Nicholas II brought the lad to Stavka knowing it would be good for him, as a chance to do manly things and as a preparation for the future.   Alexandra had a tough time letting Alexei go, but realized that her husband wanted to make sure their son was better prepared to be Tsar one day than he himself had been, as the gist of her explanation to Pierre Gilliard went.  (See Massie, N+A, page 298.)

2.  As Mr. Atchison has pointed out on this website, Alexei Nikolaevich's rooms were being remodeled -- to me a bit of practicality as much as an expression of faith that the boy would make it to seventeen and beyond.  His parents obviously realized that he wasn't a small child any more.

3.  Alexei's uniforms 'gave room for growth'

4.  The boy's career was set in stone -- he would be Tsar if he lived that long, and the most important thing was his education.  Marriage speculations might come later -- when he himself could moot that kind of thing.  But as long as it looked like he was bound for the throne, he was ten.... eleven... twelve.   A  boy that age doesn't make for romantic copy like his sisters have gotten -- but surely history is left with the makings of a Knight in Shining Armor or a Prince Charming some day, as well as with a brave young prince who some consider a saint.
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Re: A Life for the Tsarevitch
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2005, 10:08:54 AM »
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I do recall reading, and perhaps someone can confirm this with a source, that Alexandra once laughingly said that she feared the day she would have to pass on her jewels to her son's wife. I mention this because it is the only time I remember reading of Alexandra making any mention as to her son's future wife.

Of course, we also know that she was constantly thinking about his future, and wanting to assure that a strong throne was passed on to him. So she certainly believed that Alexei would one day rule. Yet some chalk this up to just being wishful thinking and denial on her part.


Why did Alexandra make the joke that she was afraid to pass on her jewls to Alexei's future wife?

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Re: A Life for the Tsarevitch
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2005, 10:05:47 PM »
Something most queen or empress-consorts must face one day....

RissiaSunbeam1918

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Re: A Life for the Tsarevitch
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2005, 05:55:16 PM »
Well, why would she want to part with her things?  ;)She might have also thought no girl was good enough for her baby so maybe that was why, but I think it was more of a joke than a harsh comment or whatever. Did Minnie give Alix jewels?  :-/ I thought she refused to give Alix stuff...

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Re: A Life for the Tsarevitch
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2005, 07:45:55 PM »
I've read somewhere in this forum that Minnie kept something, I'm not sure what...I'll try to look for that.

RissiaSunbeam1918

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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2005, 07:51:30 PM »
Thanks that would be cool.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2005, 03:49:35 PM »
Many prominent pieces of jewelry are traditionally handed on to the next consort of the sovereign...they aren't the private property of one person, such as an empress-dowager...But some former consorts can be greedy old things....not wanting to let go after their time in the sun has passed....

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2005, 04:16:50 PM »
In Russia, while still alive, the Dowager Empress was in possession of the Empress's official jewellery. After she dies they get passed on to the Empress Consort. Thus Empress Maria had all the important jewels, Empress Alexandra the jewels of a Tsarevna.

RissiaSunbeam1918

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2005, 04:20:48 PM »
Oh, wow! Thanks Georgiy! :o

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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2005, 05:45:08 PM »
Yes...very interesting...different from Britain....

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Re: A Life for the Tsarevitch
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2005, 12:30:12 AM »
I thought Massie mentioned in one of his books that the Dowager Empress was reluctant to pass on certain jewels to the Empress. Anyone remember that? I will try to check it out.