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« Reply #135 on: February 02, 2009, 09:37:33 AM »
Okay, thank you for the suggestion!  :)
And so she was an "unintentional claimant" of the Grand Duchess Anastasia...interesting.

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« Reply #136 on: February 02, 2009, 09:41:32 AM »
Eleonora Kruger: Eleonora Albertova Krüger (Nora) (Bulgarian: Елеонора Албертова Крюгер; Russian: Элеонора Альбертовна Крюгер; unknown-20 July 1954) was a woman who lived in the village of Gabarevo, Bulgaria in the twentieth century. Some have speculated that she was Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia.

She arrived in the village of Gabarevo in the summer of 1922, and was welcomed by a small group of Russian immigrants who had already settled there. These people were registered at the city hall as Doctor Peter Alexandrovich Alexiev, Matvei Pavlovich Kolishev, Sergei Maximovich Kuzmich, and Iakov Simeonovich Latvinov. Eleonora Kruger was welcomed by Dr. Peter Alexiev in his house. According to his information that he provided when he first came to Gabarevo Dr. Alexiev was born on 15 January 1884 in Smolensk, Russia. When Eleonora first came to the village she was registered as a Russian; she subsequently changed her nationality to Polish. She would tell the people that she was the daughter of a Russian nobleman and Polish countess; however, she would never reveal their names.

The other Russians were employed by Dr. Alexiev and Eleonora Kruger, and cooked and cleaned their house. They were soon joined by a young Russian named George Pavlovich Zhudin, who ended up living in the same house as Dr. Alexiev and Eleonora. George was described as a tall and slim man with a pale face, and it was told that George was sick with tuberculosis - the symptoms for tuberculosis and hemophilia can be similar (Anastasia's younger brother, Alexei, suffered from hemophilia). It was widely speculated that Nora and George were sister and brother, although they themselves never confirmed this.

George died on 27 December 1930, and was buried in the village of Gabarevo. Nora would often visit his grave and is said to have planted two trees there. After her death, she was buried on his right side, a tradition for Russian people related by blood. Additionally, when their graves were excavated in the 1990s, a ladanka was found in George's grave — a small icon of Christ customarily left inside the graves of high-profile Russian aristocrats.

The living arrangements between Dr. Alexiev and Nora made the people of Gabarevo uneasy. Rumors began to spread; eventually this would force Dr. Alexiev and Nora to marry. The marriage took place on 26 September 1924 – at the time of the marriage he was 40 and she was 25.

Nora loved and had many dogs; one of her dogs was named "Maron", which is a very unusual name for Bulgaria. The name is also an anagram for "Roman", short for Romanov. More simply, the meaning of "marron" in French is "brown", which is not unusual for the dog of a French teacher. The names of her other dogs were Rex, Tangra, Beba, Jimmy and Johnny.

SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA

This is what is written on wikipedia ... I have also a photo of the alleged "Alexei" ... Want to see it?

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« Reply #137 on: February 02, 2009, 09:58:38 AM »
Well, since this is a topic for claimant photos, it'll be nice of you to post it... :)

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« Reply #138 on: February 02, 2009, 10:02:51 AM »
Thank you very much!, Oh yes!, I want to see the photo, thanks!  :)

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Re: Photos of Claimants
« Reply #139 on: February 02, 2009, 10:31:14 AM »
Yes, you are right, hemophilia is only trasmitted by the mother.

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« Reply #140 on: February 02, 2009, 10:38:55 AM »
... here here's the link to view Pavlovich George, the alleged Alexei!   http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/naotmaa_01/?action=view&current=Georgepavlovich.jpg
« Last Edit: May 25, 2009, 09:19:48 AM by Alixz »

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« Reply #141 on: February 02, 2009, 10:41:37 AM »
Thank you!  :)

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« Reply #142 on: February 02, 2009, 10:46:56 AM »

Well, I believe if Alexei had daughters, they would have been carriers too, but wouldn't have had hemophilia.

P.S.: Here's an explanation, I didn't write it... = "If a female gives birth to a hemophiliac child, either the female is a carrier for the disease or the hemophilia was the result of a spontaneous mutation. Until modern direct DNA testing, however, it was impossible to determine if a female with only healthy children was a carrier or not. Generally, the more healthy sons she bore, the higher the probability that she was not a carrier.

If a male is afflicted with the disease and has children with a female who is not even a carrier, his daughters will be carriers of hemophilia. His sons, however, will not be affected with the disease. The disease is X-linked and the father cannot pass hemophilia through the Y chromosome. Males with the disorder are then no more likely to pass on the gene to their children than carrier females, though all daughter they sire will be carriers and all sons they father will not have hemophilia (unless the mother is a carrier)."

Btw, thanks for the pic, gemellibru!
« Last Edit: May 25, 2009, 09:20:45 AM by Alixz »

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« Reply #143 on: February 02, 2009, 10:51:13 AM »
I wonder how Leopold, duke of albany `s  children hadnt haemophilia or were carriers of the disease (if im wrong about this, please let me know, because, as far as i know, none of their children and their offspring had haemophilia or were carriers of the gen )

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« Reply #144 on: February 02, 2009, 12:10:51 PM »
Guys I got a site that says that Anastasia did not have blue eyes! They say that Marie was to have blue eyes (in fact Nicholas II called the eyes of Marie "the saucers of Marie")
What do you say? I do not know what to think, help me!

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« Reply #145 on: February 02, 2009, 12:23:17 PM »
I always thought she had blue eyes *0*

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« Reply #146 on: February 02, 2009, 12:37:30 PM »
Guys I got a site that says that Anastasia did not have blue eyes! They say that Marie was to have blue eyes (in fact Nicholas II called the eyes of Marie "the saucers of Marie")
What do you say? I do not know what to think, help me!

Maria had blue eyes. ;) I'm not so sure about Nastya's, though. Where did you read it, btw?

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« Reply #147 on: February 02, 2009, 12:38:33 PM »
Anastasia had blue eyes too... I would say Maria's eyes were more between blue and little gray...i'm not pretty sure...

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Re: Photos of Claimants
« Reply #148 on: February 02, 2009, 02:42:23 PM »
I wonder how Leopold, duke of albany `s  children hadnt haemophilia or were carriers of the disease (if im wrong about this, please let me know, because, as far as i know, none of their children and their offspring had haemophilia or were carriers of the gen )

It's getting OT for this thread, but yes, his daughter Alice was a carrier.   Her son Rupert bled to death after a car accident at 20 years of age.  He was known to be haemophiliac.  Another son died in infancy- we don't know of what.  Her daughter was not a carrier, fortunately.
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Re: Photos of Claimants
« Reply #149 on: February 02, 2009, 02:53:23 PM »
All of OTMAA had blue, with some grey colour. IMO, daughters of male hemophiliac are not hemophilia carriers.
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