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Offline ChristineM

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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #225 on: January 21, 2008, 01:18:26 PM »
Rather too many posters are inclined to create the impression that they are Russian historians - a vast subject which breaks down into a variety component parts.   However, supporting credentials never seem to materialise.   Sometimes its not just the content, but the construction of posts which can indicate the standard of educational background.

There is nothing whatsoever wrong with enthusiastic amateurism which can, indeed, be in some ways as enlightening.   Each of us should be mindful of our abilities and not bully others into believing that conveniently selected quotes, and subjective interpretation, are infallible.

What saddens me most is that, even when Bob Atchison's unfailing commitment and years of outstanding work are brought to posters' attention - this goes unheeded.

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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #226 on: January 21, 2008, 06:39:48 PM »
Tsaria and Helen you are both welcome to your opinions for what they are worth. Viva la difference!

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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #227 on: April 27, 2008, 04:59:21 PM »
From all I've read, it seems that she was an excellent mother (more 'hands-on' than most in her position.) However, I have seen pictures (an unfortunately I did not include any) where the children are all wearing necklaces. I believe these to perhaps be icons they wore daily. Does anyone have any more info on what these were? There are a few beach pictures of Alexei with one of these necklaces on. Could someone please elaborate on this? Is this a common tradition in the Orthodox faith?
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #228 on: April 27, 2008, 06:44:40 PM »
All the children wore baptismal crosses on chains. I've never seen a photo where the crosses themselves are visible, but there are a number of photos (particularly formal shots of OTMA) where the chains are visible. According to orthodox custom, baptismal crosses are not prominently displayed as jewelry -- they're more a private symbol of faith. I think OTMAA may also have worn medals or pendants with a portrait of Rasputin. I'm fairly sure this has been discussed in other threads, so if you do a search on crosses, jewelry, or necklaces you'll likely come up with more information.
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #229 on: April 29, 2008, 12:49:27 PM »
According to orthodox tradition, all baptised wear a cross, but should not show it. So most of the time the chain or necklace is long enough to hide the cross under the shirt.
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« Reply #230 on: June 04, 2008, 01:15:38 PM »
i have allways seen Alexandra as a doting mother and proud womanwith good values and morals ! i was just intrested to see how everyone else saw her!!!!
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #231 on: June 04, 2008, 01:26:04 PM »
Hi Charlie,

There have been some very long and lively discussions on this topic in the past. If you do a search on "Alexandra as a Mother" you should turn up some interesting results.
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #232 on: June 04, 2008, 01:27:12 PM »
If I´m not mistaken, there has also been a thread "What do you really think of Alix".

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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #233 on: June 04, 2008, 01:30:27 PM »
Yes, and there are numerous discussions about whether OTMAA were isolated and sheltered that deal with Alexandra's parenting. Please look around Charlie -- you will find lots of information and opinions!
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #234 on: June 04, 2008, 01:44:16 PM »
Firsltly----welcome Charlie !
Secondly----I agree with Sarushka.
OTMAA were isolated.
But Tsarevich Alexei druring war wasn't isolated as OTMA were, for example. Because he oftenly visited military, and knew many persons, soliders.
Empress was interesting person. She was good mother, often in misgiving about her son. She wanted to protect her children, and because this, OTMAA were devilish isolated. We have to understand her, fear ,heed made she maybe  hardfeatured person.
Remember her son and husband could died very often(Aleksie due to hemophilia, NII  due to possible assassination.)
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #235 on: June 04, 2008, 01:49:47 PM »
yes thank you you have all helped greatly!
i would also like to hear peaples opinions on her as a pearson in genaral!
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #236 on: July 28, 2008, 07:39:05 AM »
i mean if Alix cleared up her girls about sex and such thinks. ? ??? or has OTMA a nanny who has told it them.

i knew that Alix, didn't wanted that girls spend time with their Russian cousins,like Xenia's sons. Cause they has many freedom, and  they could do what they want.

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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #237 on: July 28, 2008, 08:35:39 AM »
I think the Empress saw them and treated them as little girls to a large extent and never as adults in their own right. Sex education is something of our age to a large extent helped no end by TV and films.

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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #238 on: July 28, 2008, 08:42:23 AM »
do you mean she has told it to them in a mother-daughter discussion ??
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Re: Alexandra as Empress and Mother
« Reply #239 on: July 28, 2008, 08:54:45 AM »
Intresting, and the same goes for Alexei. But as we know Alix treated her children as little children, even when they were into their teens and might have questions about it. I wonder if Alexei might have been able to ask his father those kind of things.
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