Katherine Swynford

[Vecchiolarry]

Hi,

Thank you, Ilyala, for that portrait of John of Gaunt.  He looks a little like Vlad the Impaler to me - handsome but a little dangerous!!
And you're right, Charlton Heston he's not....

I'll go out on a limb here and suggest Hugh Jackman or Gerard Butler.
There is a British actor called Nathaniel Parker, who resembles JG;  but I think he's too old now for the role.

Larry

[alixaannencova]

Ilyala thank you for posting the portrait! I have always pondered the likeness although the narrow cheeks and sensuous mouth may have been where Ms Seton got her inspiration from! I believe at some stage a Keeper of the Duke of Beaufort's pictures did a bit of in depth research into this portrait and speculated that the portrait may be a Jacobean fake! Anyway I like it and like Larry think the sitter looks suitably 'dangerous'!

But...I still can not get away from my stereotypical image of a dirty blond haired John. The Plantagenets seemed to have plenty of red-gold burnished haired family members and others who were golden haired and all seemed to have blue eyes.... and then we have the ones like King John and Richard III who seem to have been darker haired! Funny how baddies tend to be recorded as being dark haired...I do wonder about that!!!!!

Anyway I see a 35 year old Daniel Craig as John! Such a shame he's a bit sabre-toothed now IMHO! Though he is just as yummy! Whoever would be cast as John would have to ooze masculine prowess and magnetism and be impossibly gorgeous enough and a tad brutish just to make the story of Katherine's putting up with him and going through all she did to win her man... believable!

Maybe O'Toole could play Edward III now and Judi Dench would look rather good as a well fed and dropsical Queen Philippa. Scarlett Johansonn would look right as the delicate and thoroughly good Blanche of Lancaster and Yohana Cobo could play a suitable spit-fiery Castilian Constanza! Penelope Cruz would be better but she really is too sabre-toothed now to play an eighteen year old at her first appearance! Katherine absoluteltly confounds me! I am still pondering this one as part of me says she was very fair whilst another likes the idea of a fair brunette like Rachel Weiz but ten years younger!
 

[Kimberly]

Oh gawd NOOOO not Scarlett Johanson....perlease.
And please NOT Keira Poutly Knightly

[alixaannencova]

Oh my no never Keira, have mercy..... I am rather Keira-ed out to be honest...can you imagine Keira and Scarlett in the same scene....other actors would have to duck to avoid being pout smacked!!!!!!

I only suggested Scarlett as she is very fair and blonde and about the right age to play the virginal goody-two-shoes Blanche...but perhaps you have someone better suited in mind Kimberly? Pray share if you do...please!!! Anyway IMHO the actress cast to play Katherine would have to be sexy and earthy so that excludes Keira straight away! 'Shamppo bottle' Winslet could have pulled it off if she was a bit younger....gawd I do sound agist don't I?

[Vecchiolarry]

Hi Toots,

Ha, ha, ha!!!
"Pout smacked" - now that's a new one for me & I like it.....

Many years ago, Jeannette MacDonald said in TV interview that she had to constantly smile during her singing and while listening to Nelson Eddy also in their scenes together that she had 'smile cramps'.........
I thought that was hilarious but now pout smacked will be my new favourite!!!

Thanks,
Larry

[alixaannencova]

Smile Cramps....Lol...really LOL!!

Wonderful Larry...I have tears in my eyes!!!!!

Glad you like the pout smacking one too.......! It is such good 'soul food' to have a good giggle!!!!