Since you choose to avoid my PMs by putting me on ignore (everyone note he has no problem engaging me as long as it's for everyone to see) here it is in its entirety, as I saved it, typos and all: (I think you DID read it, since the first lines were the only rude ones, and that's all you posted- if you did truly hide to avoid my 'rant', you were indeed a baby with his fingers in his ears, but I think you just wanted to make me look bad, as usual)
For God's sake, shut up, you pompous ass. Your devoted defense of Penny is a joke, and dragging it into another thread- one where I tried to be civil- is OT and inexcusible. My answer was in my post 125 in the FOTR thread. I asked Arturo why he was allowing a speech about AA and denying the bones at his conference, since he had always been anti-AA, and his response was that 'all points of view were welcome' and she was welcome to give her speech even though he disagreed with it. Since it's well known that Arturo doesn't believe in AA, this told me her views in the speech were very different from his. He also told me that the opposing viewpoint was also welcome to be delivered if someone like the SEARCH foundation wanted to give it. Since it's well known that the SEARCH foundation doesn't believe in AA, this also told me the speech was the opposite of their views. Why would anyone do a speech called "Romanov bones: who was AA" unless they were going to offer something different than what the accepted DNA tests tell us? Added to her LONG history of defending AA both here and on other sites, it's not surprising someone woudl draw such conclusions.
As to your other question, about the 'rape on the Rus', I also answered that by posting what FA wrote out of what was in the book compared to what actually happened. There were no 'leering guards' no 'abuse reaching a crescendo during the night', these things were, as Simon accuses me of, MADE UP STUFF. There is no evidence of this at all and in fact, as Helen points out, the words of the sources are very different. Now whether this 'abuse' was a rape or a severe ass kicking makes no difference, the point is, the story was sensationalized and sources actual words were altered to achieve a more desirable- and more exciting- storyline. I totally agree with everything Helen says about the book, and I can't understand why you and Simon, if you truly are on the side of truth and justice and history, would go to such great lengths to defend a book that does such things.
Now, I know all this is going directly to Simon and Penny, but at least it's not on the open forum for you to pick apart and attack. You only want to attack me and try to belittle and humiliate me in front of everyone, that's how you get your entertaintment, that's why you refuse to do the honorable thing and take it off the forum to PMs as I have. It's no fun if you can't try to make me look bad in front of everyone, or get some kind of undeserved vindication for your buddy Penny by taking pot shots at me. I am NOT going to play this childish game with you. I owe you NOTHING. I don't like you, and I hope to never speak to you again.
On Gapon- if I ever read his name in a book, it didn't stick. I honestly never saw the thread before you mentioned it. Lisa can tell you it wasn't me who reported it. It looks to me as if someone- not me- was doing a search of all Binky's posts when they found that. Who was it? It could be anyone. i am certain there must be other members and lurkers who are reading this junk we're posting and getting appalled, and perhaps wanted to check out Binky's previous posts to determine what kind of character it was before deciding who was right or wrong here. Unlike you and me, most people aren't going to comment, especially when controversy is involved. Very few have the stomach for it, and/or are afraid of ending up chastised and harassed like me. Anyway, I did NOT report the post, never saw it, and your accusation against 'a certain poster' (if that's me) is completely unfounded and false. I am innocent and you were paranoid. (though I do admit if I were you, I'd me my main suspect, but that goes to show it's not always the most obvious answer)
Now, in all honesty, FA, this has gone WAAAAY OT.
If you have anything further to say to me, please take it to PMs, or shut up. Someone has to be honorable enough to stop this fighting.