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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #420 on: March 14, 2013, 02:16:39 AM »
My reason for asking is that , quite some years ago when I was a child I saw some "photostats" of photos as they were called back then (early type of "photocopy" I suppose) . I remember my father calling them "gestetners" ---- I think this is name of the brand of machine which made the "photosats".....anyway.....there were 4 or 5 really poor photos of the IF . I dont know what happen to them as my father is dec'd 15 years ago . I have never seen them again in any books or on the internet , but obviously I know they exist. The only one which sticks in my mind is the one I asked about in the above post of skinny Romanov sister - I cannot remember what the other photos were at all.....From comparing my memory with what I've seen of existing photos , it was Olga or Tatiana
My guess is the original photos are in some 'private collection' somewhere or in possession of IF relatives........makes me wonder how many other photos are hidden away and not publically available but would be interesting to see.

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #421 on: March 14, 2013, 07:50:00 AM »
The only one which sticks in my mind is the one I asked about in the above post of skinny Romanov sister - I cannot remember what the other photos were at all.....From comparing my memory with what I've seen of existing photos , it was Olga or Tatiana

Do you remember anything else about the photo you're looking for? Was there more than one person in it? Were they sitting or standing? Indoors or outdoors? Dressed in light or dark clothes? "Skinny" is very little to go on, and also a rather subjective feature.

It's not unusual for pre-captivity photos to be mislabled as taken in Tobolsk or Ekaterinburg. For example, there's a couple pictures of Nicholas II in a wheelchair that are often captioned as "the tsar at the end of his life in Ekaterinburg," when in fact they were taken almost 20 years earlier in Livadia. There's also a photo of the grand duchesses looking out the window of the governor's house at Stavka which is almost always mislabeled as the governor's house in Tobolsk. So limiting yourself to captivity photos may not unearth the image you're in search of.

This is the only photo that comes to mind based on your description, though Maria is the only one who looks noticeably thinner than usual to me. It was taken early in captivity -- while the girls were convalescing from measles at the Alexander Palace in the spring of 1917.
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #422 on: March 14, 2013, 09:35:14 PM »


Recently while editing folders I found a slightly  fuller version of the swing photo. Nichols comes after Anastasia
looking at it now, seems Joy is between Alexis and Anastasia , facing Alexis

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #423 on: March 18, 2013, 08:59:27 PM »
more possible  dog sightings in captivity



Joy in front of Anastasia and Jemmy behind

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« Reply #424 on: March 19, 2013, 06:00:25 PM »


Recently while editing folders I found a slightly  fuller version of the swing photo. Nichols comes after Anastasia
looking at it now, seems Joy is between Alexis and Anastasia , facing Alexis


That's definitely a new one to me, blessOTMA. Do you have a time and place for that ? Quite likely the AP period, but when? Also, nice hats! Never seen quite that style on the girls before.

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #425 on: March 25, 2013, 12:27:09 AM »
Rodney_G.  Interesting. I thought it was in Tobolsk. We know they had a swing in Siberia . But I have to say Nicholas looks very crisply dressed  for captivity. So it likely  be pretty early on . Was there a brick wall in the  Tobolsk compound? The girls had these hats since at least 1916 , if not before. They wore similar ones in the Crimea in 1912.

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« Reply #426 on: March 25, 2013, 08:03:09 AM »
It's Tobolsk. The guards helped Nicholas build the swing in the yard. Anastasia mentions using it in at least one of her letters.
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« Reply #427 on: March 25, 2013, 10:26:00 AM »

new  to me garden photo of Nicholas...looks like Alix's chair in the background

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« Reply #428 on: March 25, 2013, 10:51:53 AM »
Excellent find. I wonder who the proud-looking fellow beside the tsar is?
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #429 on: March 25, 2013, 11:11:20 AM »
Excellent find. I wonder who the proud-looking fellow beside the tsar is?
Indeed, that bulk is new to me! lol He has the build of a coachmen and  a very sweet expression.
 It's  seems not just pride, as with others at this time... he's moved

dog alert...Joy behind the Tsar?...O at the shed?

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #430 on: April 10, 2013, 12:18:09 AM »
Photobucket is so awful since its "upgrade" I'm just supplying the link at the moment

http://www.lepta-kniga.ru/linkpics/News/buks3big.jpg


found on the web....imo the woodcutting photo is flipped. However  I've never seen fuller files
of the sled photo or the lunch/tea photo and the photo of the girl's room is totally new to me.
If the  well known photo of the girl's room in Tobolsk  is of the Little Pair's side, this would be the Big Pair side


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« Reply #431 on: April 10, 2013, 11:40:42 AM »
Holy wow. Was that taken from a book, or is it a screenshot of the webpage?
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« Reply #432 on: April 10, 2013, 11:27:47 PM »
It's an actual  page from  this site

http://www.lepta-kniga.ru

Which appears to be a Russian Orthodox  site.

 Looks like  the photo  was taken from the desk  area where Anastasia was sitting in another photo .

Were there two stoves in the room?  One on either side of the door?  Looking at the well known photo in "The House of Special Purpose"  p.84,  the stove area is very diffrent  in that photo from this one one ....but the bed in the lower right hand corner in the well known photo
is just like end of bed area in this photo: Chair, jacket, camp bed covering  visible and dark material at the foot

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« Reply #433 on: July 11, 2013, 03:48:49 AM »
It looks like there is a portrait, a drawing of Demekov near Marie's bed? Or is that someone else?
The inventory of Maria's fund in GARF contains an item: "The letter of leutenant Demenko V (enclosed a pencil drawing of a man). 1916".
So it is very possible Maria put on the wall his portrait:)

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« Reply #434 on: April 17, 2014, 02:57:46 AM »
Nicholas in Tobolsk, 1918. From a Russian book about Gibbes, image previewed by an online bookstore. The photo is so small that I can't guess who is on the balcony.

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