Captivity photo's

[Rodion_Felix]

One more Tobolsk photo:

Anastasia, Tatiana, Alexei, and Olga at tea. I noticed Alexei's bed is pulled right up to the table. And is that a bunch of jigsaw puzzle pieces on his bed tray?
(from Tsar, by Peter Kurth)

Question

Is there a clearer version of this picture ?

[Romanov_History_Buff]

ummm i think it's a food tray... maybe?

[Sarushka]

Question

Is there a clearer version of this picture ?

I've never seen one. The photo also appears on page 101 of John Trewin's The House of Special Purpose, but the quality is even poorer.

[blessOTMA]

Now that I have photobuckt and can post photos, I wanted to post this one here and ask about it. It rarely appears
when people speak of the photos taken during captivity. It seems to me this is OTMA...but as I say it's so rarely shown, that sometimes I wonder. It's a painful photo, that much is sure..and I'm guessing it was taken in Tobolsk . Thanks in advance for any infomation

[Olga Maria]

Yes, this is OTMA. As you can see, they look very simple and almost like peasants.

[blessOTMA]

Yes, this is OTMA. As you can see, they look very simple and almost like peasants.

I guess it rarely shows up because it is painful to view. Imo it's a very graphic illustration of the toll captivity is taking.
...and yet they are smiling, bless them. Mostly likely the smile is for whoever is taking the photo.

[Sarushka]

My understanding is that photo was taken at Tsarskoe Selo, soon after the GDss recovery from measles. They still have their hair, which would place it between March and June. This has been one of my favorites since I first saw it.

[blessOTMA]

My understanding is that photo was taken at Tsarskoe Selo, soon after the GDss recovery from measles. They still have their hair, which would place it between March and June.

That's interesting because, to me, thier hair seems more like hair pieces than the hair pieces photos.

This has been one of my favorites since I first saw it.

It's very special. Thank you for the infomation!

[Ally Kumari]

My understanding is that photo was taken at Tsarskoe Selo, soon after the GDss recovery from measles. They still have their hair, which would place it between March and June. This has been one of my favorites since I first saw it.

Mine too!

You can also see how thin Maria is (even though the light is bad), most probably after the illness.

[Sarushka]

My understanding is that photo was taken at Tsarskoe Selo, soon after the GDss recovery from measles. They still have their hair, which would place it between March and June.

That's interesting because, to me, thier hair seems more like hair pieces than the hair pieces photos.

I've heard talk online about the girls wearing hair pieces, but I don't think I've ever run across a reference to them in print. Have you? The vast majority of the Tsarskoe photos seem to have been taken in the spring and early summer, before their heads were shaved. There's certainly no sign of hair pieces in the snapshot where OTMA spontaneously removed their hats for Gilliard's camera.

[Douglas]

I  would be happy to run this photo through my photo software and make it come to life but there is a major problem.  This photo lacks protographic 'content'.  It also lacks details that can be enhanced...IMO.

One more Tobolsk photo:

Anastasia, Tatiana, Alexei, and Olga at tea. I noticed Alexei's bed is pulled right up to the table. And is that a bunch of jigsaw puzzle pieces on his bed tray?
(from Tsar, by Peter Kurth)

Question

Is there a clearer version of this picture ?

[blessOTMA]

author=Sarushka link=topic=1251.msg411870#msg411870 date=1260535964]
I've heard talk online about the girls wearing hair pieces, but I don't think I've ever run across a reference to them in print. Have you? The vast majority of the Tsarskoe photos seem to have been taken in the spring and early summer, before their heads were shaved. There's certainly no sign of hair pieces in the snapshot where OTMA spontaneously removed their hats for Gilliard's camera.

lol! ...But it wasn't spontaneous! They removed thier hats  "on a signal from GD Olga...." and really is there a photo of Olga with a broader smile? Gilliard'says they couldn't wait to see thier parents reaction. lol!  But yes, I'm referring to the talk online when I say the hair piece photos...but I have often wondered why they would bother?

The timing of the head shaving can be confusing. I believe most think it happened shortly after the children recovered from the measles. But as more is discovered, it seems their heads  were shaved some time after that.  After it became obvious their hair was coming out in clumps. So it was done in resignation to that fact, rather than done earlier in anticipation of it. What is also  interesting is they are wearing sweaters in the resting photos , but are in blouses in the bald photo...which also suggests a later, warmer  time

[blessOTMA]

I  would be happy to run this photo through my photo software and make it come to life but there is a major problem.  This photo lacks photographic 'content'.  It also lacks details that can be enhanced...IMO.

I have  wondered how this photo  would do with  photo" clean up" software. Perhaps the lack of "photographic content" was why Peter Kurth published such a tiny print of it as well. How about a try at the Rus phots?




 

[Sarushka]

The timing of the head shaving can be confusing. I believe most think it happened shortly after the children recovered from the measles. But as more is discovered, it seems their heads  were shaved some time after that.  After it became obvious their hair was coming out in clumps. So it was done in resignation to that fact, rather than done earlier in anticipation of it. What is also  interesting is they are wearing sweaters in the resting photos , but are in blouses in the bald photo...which also suggests a later, warmer  time

I found the exact date just this week in Nicholas & Alexandra's diaries. Here's what I posted Wednesday in a measles thread:

Alexandra Feodorovna, 3/16 June
Всех четверых девочек обрили наголо, так как после кори стали сильно выпадать волосы.
(All four girls were shaved bald, because after measles much of their hair fell out.)

Nicholas II, 3/16 June
Все четыре дочери сбрили себе волосы, так как после кори они сильно лезли.
(All four daughters shaved their hair, because after measles it fell out badly.)


And on the following day, Alexandra notes: "Aleksei had his hair also complete shaved off."

[blessOTMA]

 

I found the exact date just this week in Nicholas & Alexandra's diaries. Here's what I posted Wednesday in a measles thread:
Alexandra Feodorovna, 3/16 June (All four girls were shaved bald, because after measles much of their hair fell out.)
Nicholas II, 3/16 June (All four daughters shaved their hair, because after measles it fell out badly.)

That's amazing...so it was in the middle of June. That's months after recovery.
Must of been a sight lol!  Good work Sarushka!