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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #480 on: July 07, 2014, 09:01:20 PM »
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #481 on: July 07, 2014, 09:14:48 PM »
Thank you so much! I love seeing the whole photographs! The ones of the home made alter are so moving



looks like the Joy and jemmy are checking out that pile of wood in  bottom of the photo


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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #482 on: July 16, 2014, 09:58:14 AM »
It was posted on this Forum long time ago:


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That latter,larger photo of the tarantasses gives a somewhat different impression of the scene as the Romanovs boarded them than I'd previously held. Namely it seems basically light,that is, daylight ,and the conventional  narrative describes the departure as at around 4am and still fairly dark. I thought daylight began in that part of Russia in mid-Spring much later, or put another way, that nights were longer then and there. Though the IF had been awake all night in any case, a morning departure seems at least a little less depressing, though it was very much so for them in any case.

In 1949 Gibbes wrote a short account of his time with the Imperial family in Siberia. In that account, published in Russian translation in the above-mentioned book, he happens to mention that very photo. He said that, although it was still dark, by using a long exposure, he was able to capture a photo of the Empress’ cart. However, he was not able to photograph the actual moment of parting with the Imperial family.
 
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #483 on: July 17, 2014, 12:47:03 AM »
Thank you! I have always wondered how it looked so much brighter than one would expect with a 4 AM departure time .
The carts must of been there for awhile . The horses always looked like they were moving, giving the impression so were the carts
But it's the long exposure  that gives that effect

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #484 on: July 18, 2014, 03:54:56 PM »
I know the last known photos of Olga, Tatiana, Anastasia and Alexei taken on the Rus but does anyone know the last photo of Maria? I know she wasn't there since she accompanied Nicholas and Alexandra to Yekaterinburg ahead of the others. Does anyone know what Maria's last photo is?

It's been said on here the last known photo of the Empress is of her on the balcony with Olga and Tatiana at Tobolsk in 1917 so I assume this would be the last of Nicholas and Alexandra together as well.

 

So unless I'm wrong the only "last known photo" I don't know is Marias


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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #485 on: July 19, 2014, 08:45:02 AM »
That is good question. Both Empress' and Maria's photos at Tobolsk are so rare and unfortunarely we still don't know for sure which ones are the last taken of them two.
Maria appears only in group photos.

She also learned how to develop the photos at Tobolsk, so maybe that's why she barely appears in photos, since maybe she was the one that  took the photos of her siblings at Tobolsk .

I wonder who actually took the photos - their servants and friends  or the IF members?

I also believe that someday we will see more captivity's photos and find the answers to our questions.
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #486 on: July 19, 2014, 01:47:14 PM »
I hope your right. There must be a treasure of photos somewhere in the archives from not just captivity but before the war too just waiting to be found.

I'm guessing photos where taken either by servants or the IF. And maybe before Tobolsk while at the AP even their captors???

If Maria was the one learning how to develop photos at Tobolsk then I wouldn't be surprised if a large majority of what we have were taken by her and that's why photos of her are so rare. I can understand the rareness of Alexandra photos but it seems strange that there are so few of Maria unless she was the one taking them.

Last photos:

Olga, Tatiana, Anastasia, Alexei - on the Rus to Yekaterinburg
Nicholas - Someone here said its one of him standing outside in Tobolsk (the one where the big fence can be seen behind him). Does anyone have it? I've seen it but it was a while ago.
Alexandra - on the balcony in Tobolsk
Maria - ??

Does anybody know the last photo of the whole IF together?  
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #487 on: July 19, 2014, 09:00:59 PM »
Maria - ??

It's likely one of the poses of Nicholas and the children on the greenhouse roof in the spring of 1918. IMO, these are also the last photos of Nicholas.



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Does anybody know the last photo of the whole IF together?  

The last one I'm aware of was taken in front of a hospital in the Crimea in 1916.
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #488 on: July 19, 2014, 09:38:19 PM »
I can identify Anastasia and Tatiana but I'm having trouble separating Olga and Maria




Does anyone have a more clear better version?

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #489 on: July 19, 2014, 09:53:26 PM »
I've never seen this one before...



And this one is Nicholas's study at Tobolsk as it is today


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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #490 on: July 20, 2014, 02:24:17 AM »
There were photographic films ( undeveloped obviously ) found burnt in the stove at Ipatiev by the investigators,this implys that other photos were taken at Tobolsk or on the way to Yekaterinburg which we will never see .Their cameras were confiscated on arrival at Ipatiev so none were taken there. There are quite a lot taken at Tobolsk which have been around for many years ,most posted on this forum or elsewhere on the web. There may be others that we have not seen which may be in private collections,who knows ?. Nothing seems to have surfaced of recent years........
As for Marie doing the developing - that was actually Anastasia , in one book ( cant remember which at the moment ) it is said that Nicholas actually paid for a representative of the Kodak company to teach her how to do it as she had such an interest in photography - of course Marie may have learnt from Anastasia.

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #491 on: July 20, 2014, 03:18:16 AM »
Olga is on the left in both cases, with the white hat.

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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #492 on: July 20, 2014, 01:12:44 PM »
Thank you Georgiy


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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #493 on: July 22, 2014, 04:41:19 PM »
I can identify Anastasia and Tatiana but I'm having trouble separating Olga and Maria




Does anyone have a more clear better version?



I have always had a hard time identifying the GDs in the upper  greenhouse photo , even allowing for the leftmost being Olga, as per Georgiy. The one on the right, with the light colored head gear and dark dress doesn't look like any of them , imho.
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Re: Captivity photo's
« Reply #494 on: July 23, 2014, 01:09:14 AM »
Top photo L to R : Olga, Anastasia, Maria, Tatiana.
Bottom pic: OTMA order.