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Re: Ekaterinburg letters
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2011, 12:56:27 AM »
In "Le tsarèvitch" it says that the letter that reaches Tobolsk on 24 april/7 may is indeed Maria's one, the one written on 19 april/2 may and reported in the book on pagg 265-266. So THIS is the letter of Monday after Easter.
BUT, it talks about ANOTHER letter, but arrived a week before (so the Monday following Palm Sunday) written indeed by Alexandra. We don't have the text because, as the book says, it has been lost, but memories told usa about it.

From "Le tsarevich" pag 259
ce meme lundi kobylinski reçoit une lettre de maman destinèe aux enfantsavec une description plus penible encore du voyage (...)
Cette lettre n'est pas parvenue jus'à nous et c'est grand dommage (...)


That is: "That same Monday, K. receives a lettre from Mama for the children, with an even awful description of the jourbey (here it isa sid what Alix wrote)
This letter has never arrived to us, and this is a great pity.


So it seems a bit more clear now!  ::)

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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2011, 12:43:41 AM »
It seems that "foreign languages" is a hot topic ^?^ we should start a thread in "Having fun!" and put these post there.
What do you think Sarah? Can you do this for us being Mod? So this discussion doesn't get lost.

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Re: Ekaterinburg letters
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2011, 07:25:46 AM »
It seems that "foreign languages" is a hot topic ^?^ we should start a thread in "Having fun!" and put these post there.
What do you think Sarah? Can you do this for us being Mod? So this discussion doesn't get lost.

Well, I did it, but I moved the thread to the wrong board. Right now it's in the "Welcome" section. Hopefully another mod can move it to the right spot.

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Re: Ekaterinburg letters
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2011, 11:39:16 PM »
Maria Nikolaevna to OTAA in Tobolsk
28 April/11 May


This morning we are going for a walk, as it is warm.

On April 28, weren't they on their way to Yekaterinburg? How did they go for a walk?

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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2011, 04:32:39 AM »
on 28 april NEW STYLE they indeed were on journey; but here is 28 april OLD STYLE ^^
I always have problems with two dates styles, it needs attention!

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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2011, 02:57:13 PM »
on 28 april NEW STYLE they indeed were on journey; but here is 28 april OLD STYLE ^^
I always have problems with two dates styles, it needs attention!
Did they arrive in Yekaterinburg on April 30 new or old style?

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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2011, 01:01:23 AM »
New stylòe. They arrived in ekat. 17/30 april

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« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2011, 01:31:47 PM »
New stylòe. They arrived in ekat. 17/30 april
I understand now. It's very confusing.

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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2011, 02:20:48 PM »
It is indeed, because historicians generally use NEW STYLE because it was the style russia adopted in february 1918, so i think official documents were redacted in new style. But IF continued to use OLD julian calendar. The girls quite only used old style; only Aleksandra, used to write down both dates because of her origins, always put down both in her diary.

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Re: Ekaterinburg letters
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2011, 03:27:51 PM »
The memoirs and diaries also vary between NS & OS dates depending on the editor/author's preferences. Here are the ones I've made note of...

Aleksei's 1916 diary (Tsesarevitch): OS
Aleksei's 1917 diary (Le Tsarevitch): NS
Alexandra's diary  (1917-18 Russian edition): OS
Complete Wartime Correspondence: OS (unless noted)
Dehn: OS
Dnevniki N&A: OS
Gilliard: NS
Ipatiev guard duty book: NS
King & Wilson timeline: NS
Massie: NS
Nicholas's diary (Russian edition): OS
Olga's 1913 diary: OS
Royal Sisters of Mercy: OS
Spiridovich: OS


Does anyone know offhand whether Radzinsky uses OS or NS?

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« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2011, 03:47:56 PM »
Does anyone know offhand whether Radzinsky uses OS or NS?
In Stalin and The Last Tsar, and probably his other biographies, Radzinsky informs his readers before the first chapter that all dates prior to February 1918 are old style (Julian calendar) dates. He then tells people the difference (twelve days in the nineteenth century, thirteen days in the twentieth century).

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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2011, 12:32:46 AM »
Thanks Sarah; i wrote "generally" because in all the edition i have NS is the most used (except for the Tsarevithc). But thanks to put out it'n not always so ^^ I bet you list is very useful to Imperator Aleksej for his reaseraches.

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Re: Ekaterinburg letters
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2011, 11:28:03 AM »
Does anyone know offhand whether Radzinsky uses OS or NS?
We are topic-off, but I noticed that he uses OS>
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