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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2004, 02:54:01 PM »
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Has anyone read Alexandra's biography by Carolly Erikson? I've read it several times now.  It says that in 1896, she...well it doesn't exactly say what she had...it just says Alix's labor pains ended and then "a tiny ovul came out"...instead of a baby.... I'm confused now..  ???



No, that was the 1902 false pregnancy where the tiny ovule came out (quote from Xenia's diary) In 1896 she was in the very early stages of pregnancy when she miscarried due to stress over the tragic events of the day (which she cried over) and the ball that night (which she didn't want to attend)

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2004, 05:14:18 PM »
What would this "ovule" be? ???

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2004, 05:15:37 PM »
undeveloped egg

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2004, 05:31:11 PM »
Oh, thank you Annie!  So it wouldn't have been very big at all, then would it?

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2004, 05:43:07 PM »
After the White forces entered the Ipatiev House, they discovered a box of condoms in a bureau drawer in the room known to have been occupied by HIM. There was also a box of female merkins, or pubic wigs. One might conclude from this evidence that TIM both practised contraception, following Aleksei's birth, and that perhaps HIM Aleksandra Feodorovna suffered from some sort of hormonal disorder which led to alopecia, or loss of hair, in her private regions. This evidence may cast some further light on the fact that no more children were born to TIM after the Tsarevitch. [Please see King and Wilson, The Fate of the Romanovs, for these details.]

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2004, 06:18:19 PM »
SHHHHH!!!!!! don't mention them merkins. :o
That's a no-no subject.lol
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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2004, 11:21:08 PM »
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After the White forces entered the Ipatiev House, they discovered a box of condoms in a bureau drawer in the room known to have been occupied by HIM. There was also a box of female merkins, or pubic wigs. One might conclude from this evidence that TIM both practised contraception, following Aleksei's birth, and that perhaps HIM Aleksandra Feodorovna suffered from some sort of hormonal disorder which led to alopecia, or loss of hair, in her private regions. This evidence may cast some further light on the fact that no more children were born to TIM after the Tsarevitch. [Please see King and Wilson, The Fate of the Romanovs, for these details.]



How odd...I remeber reading about the condoms of various shapes and sizes found in the room, but nothing about a "merkin"...to tell you the truth until I read your post I didn't even know what that was :o

I think Alexandra's health played a major role in her not having any more children, but what an intresting theory you have brought up. I may need to research this further

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2004, 06:46:37 AM »
Hehe. Merkins. *giggles*

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2004, 07:55:18 AM »
I had never heard of those in my life :-[ that was more than I wanted to know  :P and I didn't know condoms existed back then.

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2004, 08:22:52 AM »
Yikes! "Merkins?"  Never heard of them until I read this thread....... Gross. :P

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2004, 09:03:55 AM »
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I had never heard of those in my life :-[ that was more than I wanted to know  :P and I didn't know condoms existed back then.


I didn't know it either (about merkins).  :-[ Yuck. Not to be gross but I looked it up out of curiosity and it didn't seem to have anything to do with contraception but rather as a modesty device for performances in plays, etc..Sort of like a female fig-leaf. It also had to do with 'lonely men' (I'll let you figure out the reason for that).  The only time I'd heard the phrase before was in relation to being a male escort for a lesbian woman who didn't want to be known as such. I did know about condoms back then from reading romance novels! No specifics though.
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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2004, 10:23:32 AM »
Add me to the list of people who didn't know what "merkins" were before reading this thread! Although discussing these very intimate details of the imperial couple's life may make some uncomfortable, I find it all very interesting! It just gives us even more insight into their lives and helps us relate to them as normal human beings, not just as pure and holy figures who were above all that.

Before this board, I did not know that the couple used condoms, even though one would have to wonder what they did if they continued their sex life after having all their children. I just thought they may have used more traditional and natural methods of birth control. I had also never really known that the couple had such a healthy and passionate sex life before reading the forum. I did know that they were very much in love to the end and were very affectionate to each other in private, judging from their letters, but due to Alexandra's illnesses and the fact that they generally seemed such "prim and proper" Victorian figures, I just would have thought otherwise, especially after Alexandra's childbearing was over. Well, it is to be commended that they continued to enjoy such marital bliss after so many years of marriage.

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2004, 11:29:35 AM »
Merkins - we learn something new everyday!  ;D

But lets talk about sex: Nicholas and Alexandra used contraception and birth control, but isn`t it against Orthodox church?

In the end of XIX century/beginning of XX century Orthodox church was pro or against?  
And today?

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2004, 12:08:30 PM »
About the merkins, I did some net research and found some uses of the pubic wigs (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_232.html):

1) They used to shave off all the pubic hair as a cure for syphillis, so the well-to-do used wigs.
2) Before penicillin was around to ease the lives of the promiscuous, these were used to cover up any sores prostitutes may have obtained in the line of duty.
3) They used to treat the syphilitic with mercury, which caused baldness.
4) The merkin is for women with no pubic hair. Some people just don't develop hair down there, and this can be embarrassing.
5) In days of old a common problem was lice. One of the ways people dealt with this was to shave all the hair off their bodies, including arms, legs, and pubes. Wigs became very popular. Pubic wigs caught on slowly, starting among the kinkier set, but eventually became halfway respectable.


I don`t believe that the Imperial couple had syphillis, so I believe that they used a merkin because:

- some health problem (#4), has already been posted by Alexandra
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- the lice (#5): Ipatiev house wasn`t very clean, right?

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Re: Alexei had Hemophilia - Why Didn't Alix and Nicholas try Again?
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2004, 12:26:55 PM »
That is alot of info :o
Although I'm glad I wasn't the only one who had never heard of those things