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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #225 on: October 15, 2009, 02:02:26 PM »
According to my sources, the representation of Elizabeth in great mourning veil has been made after the tragedy of Mayerling.

Regarding the two official photos of Elizabeth in mourning, I wonder if this is not the last taken of the Empress in the last years of her reign because I know no other.
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #226 on: October 15, 2009, 02:10:57 PM »
Are the official ones the three that you posted before or others?

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« Reply #227 on: October 16, 2009, 05:48:06 PM »
Not much after Mayerling. Most of the official ones were aged atificially...

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« Reply #228 on: October 17, 2009, 04:01:44 PM »
Well. I knew that she disliked that someone take photos ao didn't want to pose for
painters, so many of paintings were based in old ones or other just invented, of course
representing her maturer as in the original ones.

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« Reply #229 on: October 17, 2009, 06:24:59 PM »
Wow, she's skinny.  My new worst fear is being "Sissi-sized". 

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« Reply #230 on: October 18, 2009, 01:14:56 PM »
I don't think she was ahead of her time in a good way.  Eating disorders are not a good thing.

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« Reply #231 on: October 18, 2009, 01:41:46 PM »
I don't think she was ahead of her time in a good way.  Eating disorders are not a good thing.

I so agree with that statement!!!!

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« Reply #232 on: October 18, 2009, 07:42:32 PM »
That's why it is best to stick to the middle path.

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« Reply #233 on: October 19, 2009, 03:02:44 PM »
Yes. But at the time most ladies did not exerise much or diet. We now know that the body needs to detox. Sisi knew it from the point of figure and good health. She liked living in the country with clean air and water.

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« Reply #234 on: October 19, 2009, 07:38:06 PM »
Yeah, she was, but she kinda was obsessive about it.  Do you want to have a waist the size of a Sharpie marker?  I didn't think so.

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« Reply #235 on: October 19, 2009, 11:34:18 PM »
I think that no body is equal to another, so not all people needs the same amount of exercise or not even a same diet. Wich is convenable for ones is bad for others. For example, in my case, I don't need any diet. I'm too thin even if I eat normally. I even force myself to eat more and more to win some wieght. My physician said it's O.K, since my body is just this way and I will not get fatter. And of course, if does too much exercise I will become thin as a stick! So, it's better for me not to do it...and that's good enough, since I rather like to read than to go to perform trekking! But physician said it's O.K too, since I walk a lot and also dance which, he saids, it's like to perform gym.

In fact, my physician saids that nowadays people believes there's an only way to be healthy and for him every person must have his/her own recipe, since every body is different from another. Who suits A could not suit B.

My opinion about Sissi is that   if she was not an anorexic, she was very near of becoming one. She was in love with herself. I like her very much but there's also little things of her I don't like too much. She was intelligent and sensitive, but also excentric and she seemed not to care about other people feelings.

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« Reply #236 on: October 20, 2009, 01:00:19 PM »
Well...It is natural. People did not care for HER feelings (Her husband & Mother-in-law were primarily the ones). Sisi suffered the confines of her position, a role she was not equipped to play. Childish & wilful, once she got the chance to get her own way, she did. I would not blame her one bit. Her husband, who could have guided her into politics and developed her as a helpmate treated her like a child or worse a doll...What she did attain, Sisi did herself. Since she knew it was her beauty that holds her popularity and her husband's love, she fought hard to retain it as long as possible.

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« Reply #237 on: October 20, 2009, 01:59:03 PM »
What i dont understand is why sissi became so obssessed with being thin when in those years, have "meat in the bones" and curves by corset  was the ideal of beauty

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #238 on: October 20, 2009, 02:39:17 PM »
Imagine if you were the most beautiful lady in Europe, you're famous and admired for that reason, I'm sure that
everyone in that condition would do wathever she could to keep her appereance, I saw that with many of modern
actresses and other beautiful women, Sissi was anorexic, she felt terrible if she overwheighed even for a few grams her
weigh of 50 kilos, of course isn't good.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part III
« Reply #239 on: October 20, 2009, 02:59:41 PM »
I know that, but i dont understand why Sissi, if she  wanted to be beautiful, did the opposite to reach the "ideal of beauty"

If you see nude painting of the era, Pictures of some of the gorgeous women of the era,  risque photographs and vaudeville actresses, you will see how wrong was Sissi in her point of view about "beauty ideals"

For what i ve read over here and other places, the only answer seems to be she was sick (anorexia). How sad =(

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