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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #195 on: July 14, 2008, 08:03:07 PM »
I have this book…but no photos (paperback edition). But I found the same photoi in a Russian book: (left to right): Grand-Duke Dimitry Pavlovich (then ADC to the Emperor); "Gen. Nilov" (it looks like him, but Admiral Nilov, the Emperor's Flag Captain should be in Navy uniform I guess); General Count Grabbe C.O. of His Majesty’s Own (Cossack) Escort; Col. Drenteln; Gen. Narishkin (in the back); Palace Commandant Gen. Voeikov; the Emperor; Court Minister Freedericksz; Prince Dolgorukov; Court Doctor Prof. Fedorov.
Here is one of Nicholas II
with his generals at Mogilev in 1916.   Can anyone name who these generals were?

Daniel, were there two Court Doctor's named Prof. Fedorov? In the memoirs of Prof. Dr. Sergei P. Fedorovo, he writes of three visits to Tsarskoe Selo and then in mid 1916 he left St. Petersburg for a military hospital in the Causcausus after which he escaped. He would not have been at Moghilev nor apparently was he the Dr. Fedorov that Nicholas consulted with on the train at the time of the abdication. Do you know who the source is of the first quoted reference to the name of Dr. Fedorov with the Tsar in 1917?

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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #196 on: July 15, 2008, 09:31:47 PM »
Hi Joanna,

I don’t think you are talking about the same Dr. Fedorov (Fedorovo?) There was only one Pr. Sergei Petrovich Fëdorov (1869-1936) appointed to the Court, though not as Leib-Medik but as Leib-Khirurg. Those titles are somewhat difficult to translate. The old title of Court Doctor « Gof-medik » existed and from what I understand was given to doctors who attended members and staff of the Court. By the late 19th century it didn’t seem to have been used much anymore though (there were only 3 Honorary Gof-mediki in 1898, none on active duty). Doctors who attended members of the Imperial Family received the higher titles of Leib-medik, L.-khirurg, L.-okulist, L.-akusher, L.-pediatr & L.-dantist. The highest rank was Ober Leib-medik, something like Physician-in-Ordinary to the Emperor, in charge of the Court Medical Service. His rank was equivalent to a General officer and as such, he wore the Emperor’s monogram on his shoulder-boards. Although in the late 19th century there was one Leib-medik and 10 Honorary ones (Pochëtnye Leib-mediki), in 1914 there is only one Ober Leib-medik listed at Court, it’s Dr. Botkin (usually referred only as Leib-medik, sometimes as Physician-in-Ordinary to the Emperor, Physician of the Imperial Family or Physician to the Highest Court) and one Honorary Leib-medik (Dr. S. Ostrogorsky). The other doctors seems to have been specialists with a lesser title of Leib-khirurg (Surgeon) , Leib-akusher (Obstetrician),  Leib-pediatr (Pediatrician), Leib-okulist (Optometrist) & Leib-dantist (Dentist): some held honorary titles (such as « pochëtnyi Leib-khirurg»).

At first Pr. Sergei Petrovich Fëderov was named Honorary Leib-Surgeon (in 1909) but went on active duty at the end of 1912/early 1913. In his memoirs Pierre Gilliard writes that after the Emperor assumed the Supreme Command of the Army (September 1915), Pr. Fëdorov accompanied Nicholas II at Stavka and in all his travels (to take care of both the Emperor and the Tsarevich) while Leib-medik Dr. Botkin & Leib-khirurg Pr. Derevenko remained at Tsarskoe Selo. But in her memoirs Dr. Botkin’s daughter Tatiana writes that her father often went to Stavka when Pr. Fëdorov couldn’t go. General Spiridovich lists Pr. Fëdorov as the only doctor in His Majesty’s Retinue a number of times in his book « Velikaya Voïna i Fevral’skaya Revoliutsiya 1914-1917» (which unlike his earlier memoirs « The Last Days of the Court of Tsarskoe-Selo (1906-1914) » unfortunately has never been translated). See :

http://www.hrono.info/libris/lib_s/spirid000.html

According to a Russian website Pr. Fëdorov remained in Russia after the Revolution, was arrested a few times, but was finally released, went back to his medical practice, and later resumed his brilliant teaching and writing career in Moscow. So much so that in 1933, he was the first surgeon to receive the highest Soviet decoration, the Order of Lenin! Quite ironic for a former surgeon to the Imperial Family no?! He died in 1936:

http://hirurgiya.com.ua/o_nas_istorija.html

As for the source of the first quoted reference to the name of Dr. Fedorov with the Tsar in 1917 if I recall correctly it’s Court historiographer General Dubensky. I have a copy somewhere in my archives but can’t find it right now.




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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #197 on: July 15, 2008, 10:12:30 PM »
Hi Daniel,

Many thanks for the detailed information as it clarifies my confusion on the Court Doctors and to the link to General Spiridovich. The memoir I have on Prof. Dr. Sergei Fedorov (sorry for Fedorovo, my spelling error!) is in German that I have translated. It may be that as he was only called three times to the palace that it was as a consultant. When I have time, I will research further as I am translating at the moment references to St. Petersburg Clinical Institutions.

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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #198 on: August 27, 2008, 01:51:41 PM »
Nemos, it's really interesting one! I have no idea about place, I think front at Baranovichi, in late 1915.

There are many pics. of NII with his army at the Front during war:
On Front with son, in spring 1916
With cossacks.
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #199 on: August 27, 2008, 02:01:41 PM »
Эти маленькие "казармы" на моём фото мне напомнили архитектуру казарм Собственного пехотного полка в Петергофе.
These small "barracks" on my photo have reminded me architecture of barracks of Own infantry regiment in Peterhof.

На вашем последнем фото кажется Крым, около гаража Императора ..., сейчас точно не помню.
On your last photo it seems Crimea, about garage of the Emperor..., now precisely I do not remember.
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #200 on: August 27, 2008, 02:33:10 PM »
Here is an unpublished one from our Archives.  Dated 1911, shows Nicholas II with the Praeobrazhenskaya Regiment, I think the 26th division?

Rare to see one from before World War I. Enjoy. Sorry about the watermark, but we don't want a downloaded copy of this to end up on ebay for sale (and YES we will go after you if you try, this photograph belongs to Bob Atchison and may not be reproduced for any reason without express written permission)

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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #201 on: August 30, 2008, 11:38:34 AM »
Очень долго сомневался чтонаэтом фото Царское Село, хотя в наших архивах говорится что это Царское Село.
Very long doubted that on it a photo Tsarskoje Selo though in our archives this Tsarskoje Selo is told that.


А это Финляндия ...
And it is Finland...

http://www.vesty.spb.ru/modules.php?name=fin&file=fin8
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #202 on: September 01, 2008, 04:19:37 AM »
Праздник Собственного Е.И.В. Конвоя. Государь Император обходит фронт казаков, за ним следуют командир Конвоя генерал-майор князь Трубецкой, далее подъесаул Тускаев и министр Императорского Двора барон Фредерике (первый слева). Ливадия, 4 октября 1909 г.

Holiday Own E.I.V. An escort. A sovereign the Emperor bypasses front of Cossacks, it followed the commander of the Escort the major general the prince Trubetsky, further podesaul by Tuskaev and the minister of the Imperial Court yard baron Frederike (the first at the left). Livadija, on October, 4th, 1909

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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #203 on: November 10, 2008, 12:22:41 PM »
Hi everyone!

I like know everything about relationship from Nikolas to his grandmother Maria Alexandrovna and his grandfather Alexandr II.

And what Nikolas thought about Jekaterina Dolgorukaja lover of his grandfather?

Please answer me! :)
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #204 on: November 18, 2008, 03:46:53 PM »
I Wonder are there any pictures of Nicholas with his grandfather Alexander II ?

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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #205 on: November 21, 2008, 05:22:46 PM »
I think he may be a little too young. To really have any opinion about Jekatarina Dolgorukaja.

But i don`t think there stands anything about his relationship to his grandmother.

The great empress Maria Alexandrovna
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #206 on: November 21, 2008, 05:24:58 PM »
A few I found floating around the forum, and others I found on various websites.
I'm even more unsure about these, but I do think they were taken when N&A were engaged.




My favorite picture of Nicholas and Alexandra
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #207 on: December 13, 2008, 07:33:35 AM »
No I have one photo,there are Maria Alexandrova,Alexandar II and his childrens and grandchildrens(just Nikolas)...........
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #208 on: December 13, 2008, 07:45:38 AM »
Maybe one group photo of R-ovs, in 1860s you mean, Rusmila, form Charlotte Zapeevat's(sorry if I made spelling mistakes) book? Sarushka probably got better answer.
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Re: Photos of Nicholas II #2
« Reply #209 on: December 13, 2008, 07:52:00 AM »
This one?


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