Grand Duchesses and soldiers at Ekaterinburg

[Annie]

Drew Barrymore is about 15 years too old to play Marie in any movie. I can't think of any teenage, 20-something actress who I'd pick to play her. Maybe an unknown Russian actress?

But this story WOULD make as good a movie as the Anna Anderson/Anastasia myth. All the elements are there. Say the soldier was taken to prison, but escaped. They shoot the family, but Marie is only wounded. He hides behind something and sees them carrying the bodies out, but sees Marie stir on the stretcher. He rescues her, takes her to his mother's house and nurses her back to health. Then the two of them decide to emigrate to America and live incognito. The movie could always end with an old, old Marie telling the story to her great-great granddaughter.

A cheesy romance and no more true than Ingrid Bergman as Anastasia, but we all want the happy ending, don't we?

Good ideas!

But I do think Keira Knightly is perfect for Marie. She did a good job playing a Russian (Lara) in PBS's Doctor Zhivago last year

[Ilana]

Yes, but please, not Ashton Kutchner...!

[LisaDavidson]

Lani: that's Kutcher. And yes, we don't want Mr. Kutcher.

[Annie]

Not even for a Bolshevik

[Forum Admin]

Sorry guys, but you have gone way too far off topic here. If you want to cast a movie hypothetically, please start a new thread, as THIS thread is not the place.
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[moonlight_tsarina]

I know that Maria was a big flirt with soldiers, and even with the first batch of them, she learned their familie's names and stuff. but later on, she must have shown the same charm, because in a soldier's bio it claimed that he thought all the Grand Duchesses were insipid except for maria. That's what also makes me think the Kitchen Boy theory on survivors could have been true, and Maria could have softened the hearts of some of the soldiers...
???what do you guys think?

[aylay24]

Keira Knightley looks nothing like marie, she lacks that rosy complexion and the somewhat cubiness and laughter Marie had.

[Tania]

'you know', or it's your opinion ?

If it is your opinion, you still need to quote your sources, etc. If it is something your quoting, you need to show us where you gained this information.

You may not give absolutes, w/o (without) stating where you gained any information.

Please define which it is. Thank you.

Tatiana+

I know that Maria was a big flirt with soldiers, and even with the first batch of them, she learned their familie's names and stuff. but later on, she must have shown the same charm, because in a soldier's bio it claimed that he thought all the Grand Duchesses were insipid except for maria. That's what also makes me think the Kitchen Boy theory on survivors could have been true, and Maria could have softened the hearts of some of the soldiers...
 ???what do you guys think?

[Azarias]

Golly!  

Even today when we can say we might have living eye witnesses to a situation one person might call another flirtatous while someone else there would say not at all. It's all rather subjective. And in this case how do you prove something from so long ago when you can't get two people to agree as to another "flirting" yesterday?

I'm going to take a long shot guess though using astrology.

GD Marie was a Cancer. If anyone understands or gives relevence to the signs, she physically portrays a Cancer quite well. That would be where her sweetness comes from. Cancer is emotional, tender and protective.

Now I could well imagine a young lady such as this who is cooped up and worried about her family. Being nice or friendly and hoping perhaps to soften the imprisonment would not seem unusual to me. I could imagine all of the IF using what people skills they had to help the situation.

Also her parents, I'm sure, would not have allowed anything less than befitting a Victorian Grand Duchess.

[Romanov_fan]

Well, this episode has got to be the most discussed thing out of FOTR, and it has been questioned, and perhaps? proven false. I think it was said to be exaggerated, which it was actually, and very much so. I think that of course things are subjective, but although we know that Marie was friendly and romantic, we also know who she was, how she was raised, and what her parents would have thought, and so we can sort of say how she would have acted, or could have acted. And so this incident isn't to be wondered about very much as it doesn't have that much importance. I have never read that some guard/soldier thought that Marie was the only interesting one. I believe Ermakov siad to some author ( this discussed in another thread), that Tatiana was most interesting/memorable of the daughters, not Marie. Is this what you, Moonlight Tsarina, are refering to?

[matushka]

Bear, Skorokhodov means in english 2 things. First: "this who is going quickly". Second: a skorokhod is some kind of messenger in a palace.

[lababoc]

I think  people are too romantic ...I do not believe that life for the Grand duchesses  was easy..in Tobolsk or Ekaterimburg   nothing is said about the fear constant fear of sexual attacks.. rapes   and indignities.What was there to protect those young ladies from all this... plus  they were "trophies" for those  lawless  brutes....in those lawless times .

[Sarushka]

This has been discussed time and again on these forums. There is NO evidence that the imperial family suffered any form of sexual assualt in captivity. Do a search on "rape" if you'd like to read about and/or discuss the issue on previous threads, but please, let's not start the whole thing again on this thread.

[lababoc]

Thanks...I will take a look ..... a good historian HAS to deal with all  the possibilities...when facts are not registered..and just think in the Balkans War in the 1990s  ...for instance .so that possibility will not appear so far fetched...thank you again 

[lababoc]

dear SARUSHKA after visiting the thread "rape" I  DO understand your request...  thank you