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Offline Lanie

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Russian and European Court Dresses
« on: September 02, 2004, 05:49:05 PM »
Does anyone have any photographs of Olga and Tatiana from 1913, when the court gown photographs were taken? I've got a few and they're all of rather poor, small quality and I'd love to see something where one can see all the details on the gowns and the jewelry and whatnot.  :)
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2004, 03:34:08 AM »
Olga Nikolaevna

The dresses of 1913 today in the Hermitage

Edited by Alixz on 04/22/2009 - I used to think this was a picture of one dress in front of a mirror, but on closer inspection, I can see that it is two dresses.  Olga Nicholaevna and Tatiana Nicholaevna
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Re: Russian and European Court Dresses
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2004, 04:55:27 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2004, 06:01:38 AM »
What wonderful pictures.  The girls actually look quite at home in these dresses; their jewellery is modest by Romanov standards but the whole effect is supremely tasteful - how beautiful they look.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2004, 08:41:30 AM »


Tatiana looks so beautiful here! Those dresses were fantastic, but just her face in this picture is very pretty; you can see the regal expression and the how way she carried herself made others consider her to be the most elegant of the four girls.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2004, 05:11:33 PM »
Yes, I agree Tatiana looks very beautiful in that picture, as well as the others.  But I think Olga also looks quite beautiful.  You can really see in this picture how different they look.  But both are beautiful.  I'd have to say though, that Olga looks VERY regal in these pictures, at LEAST equaling Tatiana's regalness.  I always considered her to be the most elegant looking because she had that Edwardian bearing, and just the way she is depicted in her photos is quite elegant and regal.  I have that pic that Olga posted here of the gowns in the Hermitage today in one of my books.  Those waists/torsos on those are so TINY looking!!  But they fit both O and T perfectly!  It's amazing how delicate and thin they must've been!!!
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2004, 05:44:10 PM »
This might be slightly off-topic, I'm not sure... anyway, I was looking at pictures of the girls in court dresses (all 4 of them) and I noticed in the last 2 sessions Olga had, she was holding a fan. None of the other girls held anything. Was there some symbolism in a fan? Or was it just merely a prop?
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2004, 07:33:32 AM »
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Those waists/torsos on those are so TINY looking!!  But they fit both O and T perfectly!  It's amazing how delicate and thin they must've been!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o



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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2004, 08:06:07 AM »
It seems these photograph's were taken in the Empress' Corner Salon in the Alexander Palace.   The magnificent Savonierres carpet can be seen and the table, chair and bowl on the table are all to be found in photographs of this room.

I notice the Grand Duchesses are wearing plain velvet kokshniki.   I have seen such a velvet kokoshnik - minus the ribbons - in need of restoration at TSM.  It is a pale mint green.   Might it be won of those worn by Olga or Tatiana in the above photographs?

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2004, 08:44:12 AM »
No, their kokoshniks were pink... ;)
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2004, 05:16:31 PM »
Does anyone know if the caps still exist. When the gowns were on display in Delaware I was disappointed not to see the caps with them.

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2004, 07:34:53 PM »
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No, their kokoshniks were pink... ;)


I just have to ask--how DO you find out this information? I love the little details, it adds so much. For example, I own a copy of the one card of O&T where you can see the detail on their dresses so well, but I had no idea the colors, etc...It enriches the experience to know this things.  Thanks so much.
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2004, 08:01:10 PM »
There is a book called Nicholas and Alexandra: The Last Imperial Family by George Sergei Vilinbakhov that catalogs thousands of items, costumes, etc. belonging to Nicholas & family that were on exhibit in the Hermitage museum in 1998. It describes certain costumes (i.e. Olga and Tatiana's court gowns) in detail, and even the companies in which the gowns were purchased from.

It says that their kokoshniks were pink  ;)
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There is a book called Nicholas and Alexandra: The Last Imperial Family by George Sergei Vilinbakhov that catalogs thousands of items, costumes, etc. belonging to Nicholas & family that were on exhibit in the Hermitage museum in 1998. It describes certain costumes (i.e. Olga and Tatiana's court gowns) in detail, and even the companies in which the gowns were purchased from.

It says that their kokoshniks were pink  ;)


You know, I have this book.  :-[ I guess I should actually read it rather than just look at the pretty pictures, hm?  ;)
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