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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2005, 11:38:45 PM »
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I have a question i've been wanting to ask, but had no one to ask until now!
What was the point of a regiment besides the pomp and ceremony?
Did they act as hussars to protect the Imperial Family?
I know surely they weren't the ones to go off the war! ::)
I feel dumb asking this, but I was just curious.
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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2005, 12:58:11 AM »
Hi Lanie,

I believe Tatiana's namesday was January 25th.

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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2005, 01:30:57 PM »
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Hi Lanie,

I believe Tatiana's namesday was January 25th.

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St Tatiana's day was 12 January. That also explains the date of the letter, as I doubt Tatiana would muck up her own nameday...;) Nor do I think the regiment would have been given to her early, the nameday being such a firm tradition. It's like not being allowed to open Christmas gifts before AT LEAST Christmas Eve.

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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2005, 02:47:49 PM »
12/25 January. ;)

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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2005, 03:25:56 PM »
Well, if i'm allowed, i made a mistake. Unfortunately, I was going not by the old calendar.

So here it is below: first is the new, second the old style:

New Style
(Gregorian Calendar) Old Style
(Julian Calendar) Festivals
6 January 24 December Christmas Eve (Rozhdestvensky Sochel'nik)
The day of strict vigil  
7 January 25 December The Nativity of Our Lord, God and Saviour, Jesus Christ (Christmas, Rozhdestvo Khristovo)  
8 January 26 December Sobor (Synaxis) of The Most-Holy Mother of God
The Beginning of Svyatki (Christmas-Tide)  
13 January 31 December Otdanie (leave-taking) of the Feast of Christ's Nativity
The Memory of St. Pravedny (Righteous) Iosif Obruchnik (Joseph the Betrothed)  
14 January 1 January The Circumcision of Jesus Christ
The Memory of St. Bazil the Great, Archbishop of Caesaria of Cappadocia  
18 January 5 January The Eve of Epiphany (Kreshchensky Sochel'nik)
The day of strict vigil  
19 January 6 January Bogoyavlenie (Theophany; Epiphany). The Baptism of Our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ (Kreshchenie)  
20 January 7 January Sobor (Synaxis) of Ioann Predtecha (John the Baptist)  
25 January 12 January The Memory of St. Martyr Tatiana  
27 January 14 January Otdanie (leave-taking) of the Feast of Bogoyavlenie (Epiphany)
The Memory of St. Equal-to-the-Apostles Nina, Enlightener of Georgia



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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2005, 08:23:30 PM »
Anymore pics of Tatiana  in uniform?  And are there pics of Tatiana's uniform in todays military?

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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2005, 02:22:51 PM »
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Well, if i'm allowed, i made a mistake. Unfortunately, I was going not by the old calendar.


I should have been thinking of the new calendar, because we were BOTH right. I really wasn't trying to come down harshly on you, just that I go by the Russian calendar for Russian saints' days, and it didn't even occur to me to translate the date. I tried to make my post a little light-hearted, so you wouldn't take it as criticism, and I'm sorry you did. It wasn't my intention, and I apologise.

So you didn't make a mistake, nor did I. Peace?

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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2006, 04:06:58 PM »
In the book: Table of Uniform Regulations of the Russian Army (Changes as of May 1910) by V. K. Schenk, the uniforms of the 8th Voznesensky Uhlan Regiment are illustrated as follows:



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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2006, 04:15:41 PM »
Hey David,

The hat that TN was wearing is different than the one shown in the exhibition. And the picture you posted of the uniform showed different kind of hats. Does that have to do with the differences in ranks within the regiment?

BTW, I second moonlight-tsarina's question concerning the imperial guard. I always wonder too, what was their purpose? The IF had the secret police to protect them, so what did the imperial guard do besides looking cool in their uniforms?
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2006, 05:17:12 PM »
The various hats were used with different levels of dress, that is full formal dress, semi-formal dress, daily dress etc. If you were to look down at the bottom of the illustration, you would notice the variations of the regiments uniforms in khaki colour also.

A Colonel-in-Chief was the Patron of the Regiment. Which meant that the IF member who was the Colonel-in-Chief would attend the formal functions of the regiment, maybe even send collective presents to the regiment for Christmas and Easter. The IF member's patronage strenghtened the bond between the common soldier and the Imperial House.

The Imperial Guard Regiments were used for ceremonies, parades, etc. They were kept mainly in the Saint Petersburg area as a reserve military guard for the Imperial Family. Some of these guard units, as you probably already know, were stationed around Tsarsko Selo. They were not however, merely dress up toy soldiers, as there have been many occaissions in which these units have performed with great courage and

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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2006, 08:24:48 PM »
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In the book: Table of Uniform Regulations of the Russian Army (Changes as of May 1910) by V. K. Schenk, the uniforms of the 8th Voznesensky Uhlan Regiment are illustrated as follows:

David -- I saw that book recently on eBay and thought of you. I'm pleased to see you have it already!  :)
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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2006, 09:58:23 PM »
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David -- I saw that book recently on eBay and thought of you. I'm pleased to see you have it already!  :)


Actually there are may different books by Schenk who I beleive was a quartermaster with the Imperial Russian Army. Notice that my book is (Changes as of May 1910), some regiments new uniform regulations were issued in May, some earlier and some later into 1911. I would really like to know more about the book that you saw as it is probably covers different regiments. Send me a PM please.

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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2006, 05:21:25 PM »
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They were not however, merely dress up toy soldiers, as there have been many occaissions in which these units have performed with great courage and

David


David:

Your message just ends in the middle of the sentence.  I'm interested to know what you think about this. If Tatiana's Regiment had to go do something dangerous, would Tatiana have been with them or was her position purely ceremonial? I mean to ask...would she have been expected to fight or not? Please advise. Thanks.

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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2009, 04:32:47 AM »
This might have been discussed elsewhere before:

Is this really Tatiana's regimental badge?

Russian Imperial Badge of the 8th Voznesensky Uhlan Regiment, 1912 - #3271


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Re: Tatiana's regiment
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2009, 10:35:18 AM »
I am pretty sure it is.

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