Tatiana's French bulldog, Ortipo

[NAAOTMA]

Re: Nicholas's Collies

Where oh where did I read that his collie kennel came was a gift from Queen Victoria, who fell in love with the breed at Balmoral and actually contributed to its becoming a mainstream breed not just a regional one? Was it Robert Massie's N&A?

Where oh where did I read that Iman was a gift to Nicholas from his father?

As I grew up with collies, I share Victoria's and Nicholas' love of that wonderful breed. Ours were smart, cheerful, loyal and wonderful with children and other animals. Melissa K.

[ChristineM]

Dear Janet W, et al

Sorry if I appeared pedantic.   May I refer you to the book 'THE ROMANOVS - love, power and tragedy':  page 139.    Here you will find a wonderful photograph of Nicholas II with Iman.   It was taken by Alexandra.   In the foreground one can see the distinct shape of her shadow.   Iman is gazing into his owner's face with adoration and anticipation.   I will endeavour to post it.   Should I fail, perhaps someone would be good enough to do so.   There are other illustrations too.   I will try to locate them.

I will try to remember my source for the Shelties' kennels (Shetland Collies or Sheepdogs).   It may well have been TS.

My own pedigree is Scottish.   I wonder if there are any other members of this breed on line?  

tsaria

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[Arleen_Ristau]

I just love that picture......my own breed is Scottish Terriers.  The best!!  I wish someone could prove that Alexandra did indeed have one.   ..Arleen

[ChristineM]

Wasn't Alexandra's dog, Eira, the pet she took with her to Russia in 1894 a Scottish or Skye terrier?

Whichever, apparently she had a habit of nipping strangers' heels which is characteristic of both breeds.

tsaria

[moonlight_tsarina]

Usually I call the dogs Jimmy and Ortino, but now I call Jimmy Jemmy because that sounds more appropriate.
Ortipo sounds funny! At first i thought that it was an uthors typo and i was like, What??!!

[moonlight_tsarina]

Wow! I knew that the tsar and tsarina had many pets that they loved before joy,jemmy, and ortino but i have never seen pics! Are their any known pics of the Tsatina's terrier Eira? I heard the duchesses had a silver 'shovel' used to pick up Eira's accidents...lol
Jeez, I have gotta get that book!!

[felix]

Moonlight,  Anna V, said she gave Jemmy to the family. Thats what she  called it. I think your right, its Jemmy. F.

[moonlight_tsarina]

Moonlight,  Anna V, said she gave Jemmy to the family. Thats what she  called it. I think your right, its Jemmy. F.

Yes. But perhaps it "translates" into jimmy, or people just want to think that. Actually, Viroubova game Jemmy to Tatiana, but the dog was in a "hearts" view, belogoned to Anastasia. she said that she didnt want him, but it was probly because she didnt want what happend to her first dog Shwibs to happen to Jemmy.

[Maria_Romanov_fan]

Hmmm, sorry to go off topic but if Joy survived, couldn't have Anastasia or the others?

[olga]

Umm, no. How could they have survived? Any ideas?

Accept that they all died in the Ipatiev house.

[Maria_Romanov_fan]

Umm, no. How could they have survived? Any ideas?

Accept that they all died in the Ipatiev house.

Sorry DOlga. It was with all due respect.

[moonlight_tsarina]

I just found out that Ortino was a GIRL!!  
the wholew time i thought he(well, she!)
was a boy!
here is how i found out:
(from an excerptin one of Anastasi's letters:)

"Ortino came running into the room looking for you[nicholas] but couldnt find you so [glb]she[/glb] just jumped on mama's laugh and slept. [glb]she's [/glb]such a dear!..."

Did anyone else know rthis, or is it widley known?

[moonlight_tsarina]

Sorry DOlga. It was with all due respect.

Well, i know what you mean friend!
lol...
that perhaps if a little insignifigent dog lived, couldnt za smart human?
but no, beause in reality, the dog was really insignifigent, and the Reds werent out to kill Joy, but the Romanovs! who would you try to kill if you saw escaping? a "socalled bloodrinking daughter of the tsar", or a little dog?
see?
Annie

[ferngully]

i thought ortino was a boy! how funny!
selina              xxxxxxxxxxxx