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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2010, 03:23:52 PM »
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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2010, 02:05:52 PM »
For anyone who is interested, there is a very interesting book, consisting almost entirely of illustrations, about ordinary people's burial pictures that was published back in the 1970s. It's called Wisconsin Death Trip. This book shows that it was common not only among European royalty, but also among European immigrants to the United States in the 19th-20th centuries (once the technology became available) to photograph their dead loved ones in coffins. This book is morbid as hell, but it's worth a gander, if only to see what bizarre roots we sprang from as a nation. I was most recently reminded of it when watching that Nicole Kidman movie The Others, in the scene where she looks through Victorian photograph albums of the dead.

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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2010, 07:34:30 PM »
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The coffin looks strange ..not like today's ,is it the one he was transferred in back to Vienna?Are his eyes open??Or is it the picture?

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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2010, 12:23:03 PM »
Well, he stayed in Mexico a bit before being taked to Vienna, so that was the coffin where he stayed for a few months and I think that in Vienna he was changed to the one we know. As I see his eyes are open...

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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2010, 02:05:07 PM »
Re Reply # 30 and the death photo of the Emperor Maximillian of Mexico:  I feel certain that the container is a "shipping/transfer" case.  About the eyes:  Eyes deteriorate after death, causing "sunken" orbits.  I read sometime back (but do not have the source readily available, and cannot vouch for the veracity of the information) that his eyes suffered as a result of a mis-aiming of the firing squad.  Thus his natural eyes were SAID to be replaced by black GLASS eyes, supposedly taken from a religious statute.  So the Emperor who arrived in Mexico as a blue-eyed individual, went home with dark eyes.  (IMO, It is easy to believe that the eyes shown here ARE artifical, due to their brightness and firm appearance, resulting in relatively non-sunken orbits.)  AP.
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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2010, 05:25:13 PM »
Last month I read a book that even the Archduchess Sophie didn't regonisze her own son when his body arrived in Vienna.

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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2010, 10:47:48 PM »
Thank you all for the info...Teddy where did you read the info that his mother didn't recognize her son, in a book or just a article?

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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2010, 04:38:25 AM »
Newfan, it was in a book. Today I go back to that bookshop and I will let you know the title and author.

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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2010, 11:43:52 AM »
Is known that Archduchess Sophie didn't recognize him because his face was damaged as result of the shots he received at his execution, the saddest thing here is that the ex-emperor told to the soldiers who were going to execute him that he would offer him gold if they promised not to shot in his face because his mother would be scared, so they promised him not to shot on his face and took the money but they didn't fullfill their promise. I haven't noticed that his eyes were of glass, of course they weren't naturally dark!

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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2010, 06:06:28 PM »
http://www.paulfrecker.com/collections.cfm?&pagetype=library&typeID=1&ShowStart=1&ShowEnd=8&myPage=1

Here is a site full of this kind of photography. I find the children especially sad and beautiful.

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« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2010, 07:25:56 AM »
Thanatos.net also has a huuuge collection of PM images ;-D

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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2011, 10:10:21 PM »
Sorry to come to this discussion so late.  I'm a Curator of a photo collection, and have some daguerreotypes.  The university also has post-mortem daguerreotypes, which are very special because they tell us how the public venerated photography in its infancy.  Dagueurreotypes were so unusual that they were reserved for special subjects: famous people, loved ones, scientific firsts, etc, and also post mortem dags.  It is comforting to think that for the first time, a daguerreotype gave a (wealthy) person the chance to remember a special face before that memory faded.  The practice doesn't bother me at all.  You can see some post-mortem dags here:

http://via.lib.harvard.edu/via/deliver/advancedsearch?_collection=via

Just type in "daguerreotype" and "post-mortem" and you'll see about 8.  One of them is Harriet Beecher Stowe's son.

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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2012, 07:30:42 PM »
There is a deathbed photo pf the Prince Consort. I have just seen it for the first time in Helen Rappaport's new book "A Magnificent Obsession" . I'm not sure I am going to be able to post the photo correctly, but will try...

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Re: Post-Mortem pictures
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