The Grand Duchess of Roberts Creek?

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I've read the scientifical facts all I' am saying is some  things can have discrepancies....like how you mentioned the Titanic incidence and yes survivors did show up and told their stories later on.

Please cite your sources for unknown Titanic survivors showing up and "telling their stories later on". According to all the published information, Only 711 people survived the sinking in total. (Please see both "Encyclopedia Titanica" and Wikipedia.)  The New York Times on April 17, 1912 reported: "All hope that any of the Titanic's passengers were picked up by steamers other than the Carpathia, which is on her way to New York with survivors, was destroyed to-day when messages from the Allan liners Virginian and Parisian and the Sable Island cable ship Minia, stating that they had none of the Titanic's passengers aboard, were picked up here.  Secondly, the ship Carpathia picked up 712 survivors, one of these died en route to New York and was counted among the casualties, reducing the total number of survivors to 711 (same sources). Therefore NOBODY survived the Titanic who was not picked up by the Carpathia.  So, now tell me exactly who those "survivors" of the Titanic were, names, stories etc.

Thank you.

I know you think this is somehow "personal" to you, or that I take it "personally". This is NOT the case. The point is that you make statements of fact, ie: "I' am saying there is a possibility and you just never know, that Maria Nicholaievna survived" and "yes survivors of the Titanic did show up and told their stories later on. " and for the sake of factual accuracy, I am insisting that you back up these factual statements with GENUINE evidence and not some nebulous "there could be discrepancies".   You MUST demonstrate the discrepancies.  You MUST support your assertion of fact. It is NOT about "agreeing" or "disagreeing" with me.

[QueenEna1887]

I get what you mean with the facts stuff...

[Douglas]

Hello,

Actually it was me and not Douglas who posted about "Maria decaying in the basement"...
And, I meant no disrespect to the real Grand Duchess Maria, who ended tragically....

I meant it as a "farce" in the face of the 'farcical and idiocy' of this perpetration of non-truth, which is this story.

One needs to ingest a good deal of humour into these claimants stories and that's what I attempted to do...
If anyone takes this story seriously - - PITY!!!

Larry

Yes Larry, I do thank you so kindly for coming to my rescue about someone languishing in a long forgotten basement in Transylvania or was it Malibu.  I knew you were just kidding all along. But I do suspect that you have some of that born to the purple blood in your veins.

After reading the back and forth like a ping pong match on this thread that I'm as dizzy as a doorman at a Las Vegas honeymoon hotel.

What's this new information about there might be Titanic survivors on some windswept island off the coast of Newfoundland? It's just a wild rumor that they were living on the island in a grand palace with Maria Nicholaievna?  I'm fairly sure this isn't true. These things get started on the AP Forum and it takes a lot of water to quench these fires.

Besides that I would have to have the GPS co-ordinates,  plus the latitude and longitude, so that I could check it out the island on Google Earth to see if there really was a palace there [plus Ground Level views].  I doubt there is....do you agree?

[QueenEna1887]

FA I only took you saying I was stupid and an idiot personally. Yes, proof is what is important and even if I could or anyone else could prove anything about the Romanov's survival, you wouldn't believe it, so why  should I or others waste our time? Even if proof was shown to you, you seem as if you are the type of person who would not believe it anyway!! So why beat me brains out !! LOL.  I brought this "stupid" topic up as you remarked, because I wanted to ask if you or anyone else on this thread who had knowledge or information about it that's all.   I'm not taking anything you have to say personally because there is no need to. But when you attack me personally and insult me by saying I lack intelligence like you did I found that offensive, and that you are not seeming to quite catch on to. And that is what is infuriating me because you dont seem to notice what you did wrong or you are just ignoring the fact. For the record the last Titanic survivor died about 3 weeks ago. Her name was Miilvina Dean, who was only a few months when the Ship sunk, and before her was Lilian Asplund who died in 2006, and then Barbara West Dainton who passed away in 2007. And don't forget the unsinkable Molly Brown and many other were saved by the Carparthia ship in closing.  By survivors I meant those who boarded Carpathia, so far. I did not insist some poor helpless survivors were found washed up on an island if that's what you thought. I found my facts on http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21692850/,http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/5421196/Millvina-Dean.html, and www.wikipedia.org and many other website to name. As I'am going to say the Titanic incidents have nothing to do with the Romanovs since I have no recollection of any of them being on board or suffering the fate of the passengers because they suffered a greater fate on their own, that being said there is no more of a reason to carry on this convo.

[Douglas]

I believe it was Margaret Brown, née Tobin  you refer to, Miss Queen Ena.  Her friends called her Maggie.  The catch phrase title 'Unsinkable Molly Brown' refers to a Broadway play and later motion picture.

 I know this as I was in pictures and worked at Paramount Studios in Hollywood and appeard in several films of the silver screen era. Those days are over...we're now in the multi screen cineplex era.

[QueenEna1887]

 Yes Douglas that is exactly who I'm referring to. Interesting! I'm aware they never called her that in her personal life, but Molly Brown seems a lot more catchy than Maggie or even Margaret. I read she was called the unsinkable Molly Brown  after her death in 1932.  I' am aware of the Broadway musiical and the film based off the musical one was in 1960 and the other was in 1964 i believe.  And there is something called the Molly Brown House Museum in Denver. And their is a book by Kristen Iversen called Molly Brown: Unravelling the Myth.

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Yes, proof is what is important and even if I could or anyone else could prove anything about the Romanov's survival, you wouldn't believe it, so why  should I or others waste our time? Even if proof was shown to you, you seem as if you are the type of person who would not believe it anyway!! So why beat me brains out !! LOL. 

I would actually keep and do keep an open mind about this stuff.  Right now, I happen to find the reported test results being conclusive to a certainty of 45 TRILLION to 1 as pretty darn conclusive.  However, bring on your proof of "discrepancies" and I will happily give it examination.