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Denise

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« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2004, 03:45:26 PM »
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Being a Gnostic, Rasputin believed that one cannot be cured of sin unless one knows sin. For that reason he advocated drinking, fornication and drug use.


This is talked about at length in Radzinsky's Rasputin File.  Basically it talks about how Rasputin studied with the Khlysty, and absorbed their philosophy.  And yes, he felt that he could only"take a woman's sin" into himself by having sex with her.  

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Re: Rasputin
« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2004, 03:55:42 PM »
This is one of Radzinsky's major mistakes. There is no evidence whatsoever that Rasputing EVER "studied" with they Khlysty, much less having "absorbed" their teachings.

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« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2004, 04:13:18 PM »
Thanks FA!!  I am reading that book now, and I feel like I am reading a tabloid.  Is there a thread on the Forum anywhere about what is fact and what is fiction in Radzinsky?  I like the book's readability, but dislike the second guessing I have to do while reading it.  

And is there an "objective" bio of Rasputin?  There are a few out there, but want to stick to one rooted in fact.  

Thanks!!
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« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2004, 04:24:02 PM »
Denise, check out Greg King's dual bio of Felix and Rasputin. Other books re: Rasputin exist, but in my opinion this is the best one.

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« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2004, 04:28:16 PM »
Denise, a quick addendum: The book is focused on Felix, but includes a great deal of excellent information about Rasputin. Its title, if I recall correctly, is Felix Yussopov: The Man Who Killed Rasputin.

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« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2004, 04:32:15 PM »
Janet, is that Greg King's book?  I just ordered that one from Amazon--should be here soon.  :)

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« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2004, 04:33:00 PM »
Okay, one more addendum: I checked Amazon.com, and it's The Murder of Rasputin: the Truth About Prince Felix Youssoupov and the Mad Monk Who Helped Bring Down the Romanovs.

(Though of course we all know that "Mad Monk" is used tongue-in-cheek, since Rasputin was not a monk, nor did he pass himself off as one. Right?!  ;) )

And sorry for not doing my homework before making those first two posts!  :P

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« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2004, 09:19:32 PM »
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Thanks FA!!  I am reading that book now, and I feel like I am reading a tabloid.  Is there a thread on the Forum anywhere about what is fact and what is fiction in Radzinsky?  I like the book's readability, but dislike the second guessing I have to do while reading it.  

And is there an "objective" bio of Rasputin?  There are a few out there, but want to stick to one rooted in fact.  

Thanks!!
Denise


Denise !
Try Rasputin: the saint who sinned  :-[ So sorry I cannot remember the authors name-- its Irish -- I think.
Its a well written and not very "tabloidy" read, full of  lots of good information.

(blushing at my forgetfulness)
rskkiya :-[

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Re: Rasputin
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2004, 10:33:08 PM »
Brian Moynahan ?

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Re: Rasputin
« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2004, 12:23:27 AM »
Yes, that's Brian's book.

Richard_Cullen

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« Reply #85 on: November 17, 2004, 09:28:28 AM »
I am told Professor Fuhrmann's bio of R is very good

Richard

Denise

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Re: Rasputin
« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2004, 02:14:10 PM »
Thanks for the book recommendations, Richard & rskkiya.  I'll look for them both....

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« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2004, 10:12:18 PM »
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What do you think about that (it's already quite old)

http://www.orthodoxnews.netfirms.com/Orthodox%20Church%20Takes.htm


some pic about this subject







Miracles about this icons (in Russian):
http://svpokrov.narod.ru/rasputin/rasputin.htm

I did not mention this before but those pictures are just mesmerizing. The two showing the Tsarovich with Rasputin are just breathtaking.

I find it truely amazing how an artist can create beauty out something like that.

In a sense I really feel sad for the Alexei. He was really an innocent victim of a lot of the evil surrounding his life.

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Re: Rasputin
« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2004, 10:21:36 PM »
I don't think Rasputin was evil.

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Re: Rasputin
« Reply #89 on: December 02, 2004, 06:25:02 PM »
I find those ikons of Rasputin very disturbing.  Just my comment.