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Identification Russian Nobles
Marc:
Thank you for this...there are too many similar star breast orders :-(
aleksandr pavlovich:
Response to Reply # 3: You are most welcome! It's not the number of breast star orders that bedevil me (fot the Imperial Russian ones are indeed relatively few), but it's the carelessness with which even the TRUE artists of the time ATTEMPT to depict them in general shape, placement and color. They usually wind up, as jumbled, overlapping masses/blobs of color. This occasionally extends to the ribbands of orders, too. The adornment simply became secondary to their features, even though the accurate clothing/uniforms were available. As a related "side-bar,TODAY, the many would-be "colorists" here who drool over eye-color and debate endlessly the minute shades of hair color, FREQUENTLY take NO time to research decorations on state/formal illustrations, thus bedecking especially the Granduchesses with stars of wrong color and ribbands of imaginary hues. The colors of their everyday dresses are almost totally imaginary, as most of the original colors are unknown, (but conversely, uniforms and decorations HAVE specified, recorded colors, which CAN be, but are seldom, researched), leaving the young colorists to enrapturously praise each other for their "STUNNING" works, when in truth most have utterly no idea of accuracy. And these appaling combinations, potentially in hues that didn't even exist then, are passed on to "newbies." who may believe them to be "just like what THEY wore!" AP
Nicola De Valeron:
My little 5 cents;).
AP is right - this is star to St. Stanislaus (1st degree), but with wrong colours. On the neck there is also the Order itself (rightmost).
Other Orders are:
- Order of St. Vladimir of the 2nd degree. Star to the Order is just above the star to Stanislaus. Order itself is in the centre of the neck, just near St. Stanislaus.
- Pour le Mérite (Prussian highest Order). Order is on the neck just above the St. Vladimir.
Small ribbon between the Orders consist only from the different anniversary and service medals.
mishaxenia:
I have found these photos together with some photos featuring the imperial family. According to your knowledges can anybody tell me who is the lady featured ? I think she is Anna Vyrubova but I'm not sure. Thanks
Photo 1 anna young?
Photo 2 ??????
Photo 3 Anna ?
mishaxenia:
young Vyrubova with sister ?
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