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Velasco

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Antigone Plantagenet
« on: September 15, 2010, 12:48:49 PM »
Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, brother of Henry V, "married" Jacqueline , Countess of Holland and Hainaut, who was fleeing from her proper husband; after lots of drama the marriage was annulled and Jacqueline and Humphrey separated. Humphrey then married Eleanor Cobham, by whom he had a daughter, Antigone. Even if she was born outside of wedlock, her parents' subsequent marriage legitimised her (by Catholic canon).

My question is...why was Antigone and her descendants side-stepped in the succession, and why were they ignored as superior Lancastrian heirs than Henry Tudor? Also, later on when the Tudors looked to more distant cousins for potentail heirs (ie, when Edward VI arranged marriages for the Grey and Clifford and Hastings right before he died) why were Antigone's descendants not considered?

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Re: Antigone Plantagenet
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2010, 01:47:13 PM »
Was Eleanor Cobham the mother of Antigone? ( and there was an Arthur as well)
According to Weir's genealogy, Eleanor "may have borne him 2 bastard children, possibly Antigone and Arthur, but no firm details are recorded".
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Re: Antigone Plantagenet
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2011, 07:17:47 PM »
Eleanor Cobham was tried as a witch and stigmatized for it. Possibly for that reason, her children were either forgotten or their claim to the throne nullified, as well as their illegitimacy, even if Catholic law legitimized them.

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 04:27:00 AM »
Canon law legitimised children born before the marriage of their parents, but only if both parents were free to marry at the time of their birth. If Antigone was born before the marriage to Jacqueline was annulled, that principle may not have applied. I am not a canon lawyer so I'm not too sure of the position with the annulment of a bigamous marriage!

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