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Maria_Pavlovna

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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2005, 07:56:04 PM »
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Sorry -- I don't like it. Alexei would never have been called "Lex." His nicknames were Baby, Sunshine, and as he got older, the Russian Alyosha.



Well, everyone has their own opinion. But I still like it, no matter what eneyone says.

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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2005, 07:56:19 PM »
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Alexei would never have been called "Lex."


He might have been called "Lex" today.

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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2005, 08:14:25 PM »
Maybe in English speaking countries, but in Russia his nickname would still be Alyosha :)

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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2005, 08:17:56 AM »
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Sorry -- I don't like it. Alexei would never have been called "Lex."


Me neither. It just sounds stupid.

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2005, 10:37:22 AM »
 :)  St. Tsarevich Alexei.  :)

Once His Imperial Highness, the Heir and Tsesarevich Alexei Nikolaevich.  At that time not to be addressed by anyone like ourselves until he had spoken to us.  Then to be called 'Your Highness' in public, or 'Alexei Nikolaevich' with his permission.  He was known to grant his closest friends permission to call him 'Alyosha' as his family did.  

And now he is a saint!  Holy Martyred Tsarevich Alexei, pray to God for us poor sinners that have recourse to thee, that He may have mercy on us and save our souls.

For this poor sinner 'Lex' simply won't do.    ;)

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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2005, 11:44:59 AM »
Do you consider it disrespectful to refer to any of the Imperial Family by their shortened names (Ella, Alix, Nicky etc.) since they are all saints? Your posting gave me cause for reflection & made me suddenly feel quite disrespectful in always calling them these shortened versions. In the Orthodox Church is this how it is viewed?

Pravoslavnaya

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2005, 12:37:55 PM »
My dear 'Bluetoria':

Thank you for your posting!  This is a good question on your part.  Please forgive me if anything about my last post has been arrogant!

My best answer is that I think it just does not occur to the Orthodox Church to encourage reference to the Royal Martyrs or to any other saint on any terms other than their Christian name and perhaps their title, at least not in our services and written prayers:  Holy Righteous Father John of Kronstadt, Holy Blessed Xenia of St. Petersburg, Holy Martyred Tsarevich Alexei.... and so on.    Long titles!  In akathists, you will often find epithets in the sections, such as 'o wise Elizabeth' or 'o meek Seraphim'.  But nothing too familiar, I suppose!  I can see referring to the Royal Martyrs by their first names when talking about them though, as they are seven members of the Church Triumphant -- always there to listen to the prayers of us poor sinners in the Church Militant.  

The nickname 'Lex' that has been bestowed on St. Tsarevich Alexei in this thread may not be respectful of him, but it is a sign of great affection for the boy, something I myself can understand.   Who would not love and admire someone so innocent, so kind and so much a prince among princes?   I would love to be able to write good and uplifiting fiction about the Heir, and it helps and humbles me to remember that the most appropriate place I've ever seen him referred as Alyoshka - what his family and closest friends called him - is in fictional accounts of his life.  

God bless you through his prayers and those of his aunt, 'The Holy Monastic Martyr' St. Grand Duchess Elizabeth!  - E. the sinner

Maria_Pavlovna

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2005, 02:17:37 PM »
Aww,  guys I feel so much better! >:( not! It opinion that call him Lex, I don't care if he is a saint or a royal or Imperial what ever!

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2005, 02:22:53 PM »
Dear Mandie, I am sure that the previous postings were personal opinions &, in answer to my posted question, Pravoslavnaya replied very humbly. No one was saying you shouldn't do as you please, were they? :)

Maria_Pavlovna

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2005, 02:26:25 PM »
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Aww,  guys I feel so much better! >:( not! It opinion that call him Lex, I don't care if he is a saint or a royal or Imperial what ever!


Ok,..ok. I think I went over bored, sorry :-[, but still y not? Lex is more today..

PLUS It's not stupid!
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bluetoria

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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2005, 02:28:57 PM »
 ;)Why not indeed. It's up to you! :)

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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2005, 04:03:44 PM »
um...Madie are you saying that  Alexei or Alyosha are stupid names (i'm srry if i'm wrong) but i am Russian and thats kind of disrespectful!

And i think that "Lex" is a nickname to somekind of bully, not Alexei Romanov, Alexei was far from a bully and "lex" just wont suit him! i think Alexei or Alyosha are the best names for him!

Maria_Pavlovna

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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2005, 06:25:46 PM »
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um...Madie are you saying that  Alexei or Alyosha are stupid names (i'm srry if i'm wrong) but i am Russian and thats kind of disrespectful!

And i think that "Lex" is a nickname to somekind of bully, not Alexei Romanov, Alexei was far from a bully and "lex" just wont suit him! i think Alexei or Alyosha are the best names for him!


No no no you got me all wrong, my dear, Alexei is my favorie Russian of all the russian names...( I'm not Russian, but Ilatian and the way to spell his name is Alekssio in Ilatian).......... Alyosha shouds like a girl name to me,... " Lex or Lexey seems more like a mans name......... BUT like it " Lex" .......Even I met the Tsarevitch in heaven I'll  call him " his Imperial Highness"! ok!!. ;)
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AlexeiLVR

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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2005, 07:42:20 PM »
lol! srry that i misunderstood you mandie!

ya Alexei is one of my favorite Russians names too! when i grow up and have kids i'm gonna name them Alexei and Anastasia after Alexei and Anastasia Romanovs!

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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2005, 09:40:22 PM »
I know his parents used to call him Agooweeone which is apparently one of the first noises Russian babies make when they're learning to talk? Don't quote me on this one, but I think I read this in Nicholas & Alexandra.