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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2009, 06:07:01 PM »
Probably you're thinking of this image of Nicholas & Alexandra's bedroom wall at the Ipatiev house in Ekaterinburg:

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2009, 07:12:07 PM »
Tobolsk Governor's House
two of the Tsar's daughters are standing on the balcony

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2009, 07:23:40 PM »
Wow - good eye, Reco. Wonder who toke it? P. Gilliard maybe? And would love to know which girls are there?

Fuller and more:



EDIT : Girls are Maria and Anastasia, according to label in middle photo I posted.


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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2009, 06:31:55 PM »
Probably you're thinking of this image of Nicholas & Alexandra's bedroom wall at the Ipatiev house in Ekaterinburg:



Thank you, Sarushka. That is it. I know this original is now part of the Hermitage Museum collection. Could it be possible that it survived Ekaterinburg? Can it be the same picture?


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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2009, 06:36:43 PM »
Wow - good eye, Reco. Wonder who toke it? P. Gilliard maybe? And would love to know which girls are there?

Fuller and more:



EDIT : Girls are Maria and Anastasia, according to label in middle photo I posted.


I think it must have been Gilliard, as he identified them so well. The pic was first published on his book about the Romanovs. Here is the original edition, in French.



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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2009, 12:56:35 PM »
I know that the Govenor's mansion had around 18 rooms. what would these have been e.g. kitchen, bedrooms etc. ?  Also are there any photos?

Sorry a lots of requests there but Im quite a newbie when it comes to the IF and their time in Tobolsk.

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2009, 01:03:04 PM »
I have seen Governor's House plan, upstairs and downstairs. I have never seen  photos.

From 1918:

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2009, 01:07:24 PM »
I know that the Govenor's mansion had around 18 rooms. what would these have been e.g. kitchen, bedrooms etc. ?  Also are there any photos?

There is a diagram of the floorplan of the Tobolsk house in [urlhttp://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/books.html?sku=97]Le Tsarevitch, enfant martyr[/url].

These plans were sketched by Greg King. The layout is essentially the same as the diagram in Princess Eugenie's book, though the scale differs somewhat:

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2009, 01:14:41 PM »
Thank-you very much Sarushka! Are those the same floor plans you saw nena?

I am presuming here,that the black boxes on the 2nd floor (bedrooms) are stoves or fireplaces? Also in the 1st floor (dining room) are all those doors double doors?

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2009, 01:19:46 PM »
Thank-you very much Sarushka! Are those the same floor plans you saw nena?
Yes - they are.   ;-). I think white boxes are supposed to be windows. Don't know about black ones. It might be.

I think doors are double ones. Here is Ncholas' room at Tobolsk:

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2009, 01:51:13 PM »

I am presuming here,that the black boxes on the 2nd floor (bedrooms) are stoves or fireplaces?

Yes. Probably Russian-style ceramic stoves.

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Also in the 1st floor (dining room) are all those doors double doors?

Not sure. The only doors I've seen photos of are Alexandra's sitting room, the tsar's study, and the dining room.
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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2009, 02:11:31 PM »
thank you nena and Sarushka is the photo of the dining room the one with Olga, Tatiana and M. Gillard etc?

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2009, 02:22:27 PM »
I think it is., Tatischev, Hendrikova, Schnieder are also presented, early 1918, April, most probably,  after NAM went to Ekaterinburg.



One more of room:



Priest in Governor's House Hall, 1918.


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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2009, 02:33:43 PM »
Thank you for the photos. Which room is the second photo of?

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Re: Tobolsk house
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2009, 02:36:07 PM »
Thank you for the photos. Which room is the second photo of?
Nicholas' study, I have seen labeled.


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