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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2009, 02:00:33 PM »
Thank you dearest Katenka for the link to another claimant.  Yes, it does seem that a lot of these guys are holding out in South America.  Seems that they fled Russia after the revolution and ended up in these distant shores, along with the odd former Nazi.

But we have a much more serious problem.  I checked with the US Census Department and I was shocked to learn that there are over 450 people in the US with the name of Romanov.  If all of these people are related to the Tsar then we have big problems incorporating them into the already overburdened Imperial family.  

I wonder if they will require or request some sort of pension from my already depleted bank account?  I hope not.  

Let's pray they don't find out about that pesky Facebook site.  I wish there was a way to shut down that irritable gang of Romanovs on these social networking sites.  I'll call them on Monday.  Or I might just Twitter about it.

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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2009, 09:37:37 PM »
*squeee*

I found another "Facebook Claimant", This is more confusing and unbelievable than Cathy...


Sit, relax and read..

"I am the only heir of the Romanov family I do not like to take the joke for the name of my family I am the grandson of Mikhail Aleksandrovich Romanov, my Father is Dmitry Mikhailovich Romanov is my father's younger brother Jorge Brassov and the youngest son of the wife of Grand Duke Mikhail is Natalya, or that I am the true heir to the throne of Russia, and my mother is Suzanne Lanka Hohenzollern granddaughter of Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany my mother is the daughter of Manfred Wilhelm Hohenzollern the youngest son of Kaiser Wilhelm II. Before dying in exile said that Wilhelm II only deliver his crown to his youngest son who was my maternal grandfather Manfred Wilhelm. Which shows not only that I am the heir to the throne as Tsar of Russia, but the heir to the imperial crown as the German Kaiser."

Am i the only one laughin out loud?


Dear Ms. Katenka Fyodorovna,

I have just become a member of this site.  I am a local historian, and I have been researching a certain family member, who has a legitimacy to the throne of the Russian Monarchy.   It is most interesting, and also provides evidence to both the intrigue, and the espionage of the period around the fall of these monarchs in Russia.

This a young gentleman that I am working with.  Even though there will be a major contested audience, because of his grand father's marriage to someone of lower status at the time, I am prepared to debate and answer any questions regarding the man who you have attempted to slander, which is not appropriate here, according to the groups guidelines.  Several others have done so as well, and I have pointed this out to a moderator of the group.

I have been working on research with him for about 2 months, and at this time, I would like to introduce to all of you, HH Emanuel Romanov, who currently resides in Montevideo, Uruguay.  He is a graduate of the University of Glasgow, Scotland, UK.  He was also born there, December 28, 1982.  His father was Dimitry Mikhailovich Romanov (31 July 1916 - 9 July 1993), the youngest son of Grand Duke Mikhail Aleksandrovich Romanov, born in Saint Petersburg, Russia.  His father's name has been protected in secrecy from the public and KGB, however his baptismal certificate is authenticated through the Russian Orthodox Church.  Tsar Nicholas II was present at the ceremony. Further, the Grand Duke was officially married to the Countess Brasova (his grandmother) at the time.  His mother is Suzanne Lanka Hohenzollern-Stewart ( 11 December 1945 - Present), born in Edinburgh, Scotland, UK.  She is the daughter of Manfred Wilhelm Hohenzollern and Katherine Hohenzollern (Stewart). She also resides in Montevideo, Uruguay

Emanuel Romanov and I have been diligently working over the past few months.  He has corresponded over 100 times in Spanish, of which I am bilingual. I have on file written documentation by his grand father, Grand Duke Mikhail Aleksandrovich Romanov, a letter written to the Russian Crown.  Translations from a different language can and may be misinterpreted by a reader.  The information that you copied here from Facebook, was also written in German above it. This is a young man of 27 years of age, who has cherished his father's every wish, and has every right to be heard here, and every where else in the world. He is still learning his heredity, and I am going to assist him. All of you should be more polite to those who are trying to find their family.  He is a youth, just like you!

It would be my pleasure to debate or answer any detailed questions that you have regarding his claim.  I also welcome anyone else who may like to do the same.

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Harry Binkow
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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2009, 10:30:09 PM »
Godnight Mr Binkow.

You say that you are a bilingual? well, since spanish is my primary language, i ll answer you in spanish


Muy pronto tendra a importantes y serios investigadores de la familia Romanov y los Hohenzollern que de seguro estaran ansiosos de debatir con usted. Y veo que sera una discusion interesante, tanto como el de la supuesta hija ilegitima de Nicholas II en Inglaterra.

Saludos!,


(Ps: sorry, but i wanted to reply him well and in english i get very confused )

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2009, 11:58:05 PM »

translation:

Very soon we will have important and serious researchers of the Romanov family and Hohenzollerns who surely will be eager to discuss with you. And I see that will be an interesting discussion, both as the alleged illegitimate daughter of Nicholas II in England.






Godnight Mr Binkow.

You say that you are a bilingual? well, since spanish is my primary language, i ll answer you in spanish


Muy pronto tendra a importantes y serios investigadores de la familia Romanov y los Hohenzollern que de seguro estaran ansiosos de debatir con usted. Y veo que sera una discusion interesante, tanto como el de la supuesta hija ilegitima de Nicholas II en Inglaterra.

Saludos!,


(Ps: sorry, but i wanted to reply him well and in english i get very confused )

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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2009, 06:50:57 AM »
Danke!!

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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2009, 08:20:27 AM »
Godnight Mr Binkow.

You say that you are a bilingual? well, since spanish is my primary language, i ll answer you in spanish


Muy pronto tendra a importantes y serios investigadores de la familia Romanov y los Hohenzollern que de seguro estaran ansiosos de debatir con usted. Y veo que sera una discusion interesante, tanto como el de la supuesta hija ilegitima de Nicholas II en Inglaterra.

Saludos!,


(Ps: sorry, but i wanted to reply him well and in english i get very confused )

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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2009, 08:32:46 AM »
Godnight Mr Binkow.

You say that you are a bilingual? well, since spanish is my primary language, i ll answer you in spanish


Muy pronto tendra a importantes y serios investigadores de la familia Romanov y los Hohenzollern que de seguro estaran ansiosos de debatir con usted. Y veo que sera una discusion interesante, tanto como el de la supuesta hija ilegitima de Nicholas II en Inglaterra.

Saludos!,


(Ps: sorry, but i wanted to reply him well and in english i get very confused )

La Sra. Katenka Fyodorovna,

Gracias por su respuesta. Mi español, por supuesto, no es tan bueno como suyo, sin embargo yo haré cuanto podré para escribirle en español. Perdóneme por favor, si hago cualquier error. También, si cometo un error, permítame saber. Fui levantado en Miami, en los 1960, y la cultura latina ha sido una parte de mi vida desde entonces.

Yo también aprendo a navegar en este sitio. Es un poco diferente de donde investiga me ha tomado. He preguntado a un mediador aún cómo anunciar fotos y cómo agregar mi pciture (avatar). Soy interesado muy a contestar cualquier pregunta, o debato los que tienen indagación acerca de Emmanuel Romanov. Esto es mi segundo día aquí. Deseo compartir este interés con la juventud de la comunidad internacional, como usted mismo.

Los saludos,
Harry Binkow
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Ms. Katenka Fyodorovna,

Thank you for your response.  My Spanish, of course, is not as good as yours, however I will do my best to write you in Spanish.  Please forgive me, if I make any mistake.  Also, if I do make a mistake, let me know.  I was raised in Miami, in the 1960's, and Latino culture has been a part of my life ever since.

I am also learning to navigate on this site.  It is a bit different than where research has taken me.  I have asked a moderator even how to post photos and how to add my pciture (avatar).  I am very interested in answering any questions, or debate those who have inquiry about Emmanuel Romanov.  This is my second day here.  I wish to share this interest with the youth of the international community, such as yourself.

Best regards,
Harry Binkow
Toscany

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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2009, 09:01:43 AM »
Godnight Mr Binkow.

You say that you are a bilingual? well, since spanish is my primary language, i ll answer you in spanish


Muy pronto tendra a importantes y serios investigadores de la familia Romanov y los Hohenzollern que de seguro estaran ansiosos de debatir con usted. Y veo que sera una discusion interesante, tanto como el de la supuesta hija ilegitima de Nicholas II en Inglaterra.

Saludos!,


(Ps: sorry, but i wanted to reply him well and in english i get very confused )

La Sra. Fyodorovna:

Cuando aprendo a navegar este sitio web, yo querría empezar con unas pocas notas.

Permítanos empezar aquí, con algunos de mis correspondencias iniciales.

Aquí uno puede ver las necesidades tediosas para traducciones.

Para su amigo inglés, sí, Sudamérica está llena de europeos. Muchos rusos inmigraron para allí empezar una nueva vida. Los parientes de mi padre de Odessa, Ucrania, también ha inmigrado allí cuando el EEUU no lo permitiría. Esto fue muy común durante el período. ¡Qué fue también muy común, cambiaba apellidos para proteger la familia, y su inocente!

English translation:

Dear Ms. Fyodorovna:

As I learn to navigate this web site, I would like to begin with a few notes.

Let us begin here, with a few of my initial correspondences.

Here, one can see the tedious needs of better translations.

For your English friend, yes, South America is full of Europeans.  Many Russians immigrated there to begin a new life. My father's relatives from Odessa, Ukraine, also have immigrated there when the USA would not permit it. This was very common during the period.  What was also very common, was changing surnames to protect family, and their innocents!



HH Emmanuel

Mi padre si es el hijo Mikhail Aleksandrovich Romanov y de su esposa Natalya Brassova. Mi padre hasta pago dinero para no tener nada que ver con la realeza Rusa. La pregunta es si mi padre no era el Hijo de Mikhail por que le interesaba a la KGB hacerlo desaparecer, ademas tanto mi padre como mi abuelo materno decidieron matenerse ocultos del medio publico. La madre de mi Madre su apellido de soltera es Stewart Katherine Stewart, descendiente de Jacob II Stuart, y tambien ella era descendiente de la ya dersaparecida familia real Irlandesa, y me contaba historia mi abuela que ella era descendiente de Brian Boru Rey de Munster, el Rey de Irlanda que puso resistencia a los Vikingos en Irlanda.

English Translation:
 My father if the son Mikhail Aleksandrovich Romanov and his wife Natalya Brassova. My father to pay money to have nothing to do with the Russian royalty. The question is whether my father was the son of Mikhail that the KGB was interested in making it disappear, plus both my father and my grandfather decided to maintain backward hidden from public media. My mother's mother maiden name is Stewart Katherine Stewart, a descendant of James II Stuart, and also she was a descendant of the royal family dersaparecida and Irish history and my grandmother told me that she was descended from King Brian Boru of Munster, King of Ireland who became resistant to the Vikings in Ireland.

HH Emmanuel
Mi padre Escapo, de Francia a los 34 años en el año 1950 a Gran Bretaña y para los años 1973 emigro junto a mi madre a America....
English Translation:
 My parents escaped from France at age 34 in 1950 to Britain for the years 1973 and emigrated with my mother to America ....

HH Emmanuel
Mi padre tiene el certificado de su nacimiento que tiene la prueba y la firma de ambos padres y el adn estan en los restos de mi padre como en mi sangre que no miente...
mi padre cuando emigro a gran Bretaña tenia el apellido de Romanov viajo con un pasaporte Austriaco de viena, y cuando viajo a america con el apellido de Deimond Leicester, en Brasil se puso el apellido de DA COSTA LEITE, y murio diciendo que lo unico que deseaba era que ya que la ultima ves que vio a su padre fue cuando era un niño, que deseaba ser enterrado junto a su padre y trasladar los restos de su madre a Rusia, me pidio que si fuera lo que tuviera que hacer como exumar sus restos para demostrar que era el hijo legitimo de Mikhail y Natalya, y descansar en paz.
English translation:
'My father has a birth certificate that has the proof and the signature of both parents and DNA are the remains of my father in my blood that can not lie ...
my father when he immigrated to Great Britain had the surname Romanov Austrian travel with a passport in Vienna, and when I travel to America with the surname of Leicester Deimond in Brazil was the name of DA COSTA LEITE, and died saying that the only thing wanted was that since the last time I saw her father was as a child, he wanted to be buried beside his father and transfer the remains of his mother from Russia, asked me if what he had to do as exuma their remains to prove that he was the legitimate son of Mikhail and Natalya, and rest in peace. "

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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2009, 12:43:40 PM »
My name is Christine Romanoff Morris and I am a proud member of the OTMA forum.  I just wanted to ask you why do you have such disdain and skepticism regarding FB claimants or anyone who claims to be a Romanoff?  Your treatment of these people is unfair and although some of the posts may seem "ridiculous" to you how do you know that they are not telling the truth?  I am a Romanoff descendent and my sister and I have been treated with ridicule on this website.  I would think that a group of well-educated and inquisitive people would want to explore someone's claim with interest and fairness.  It is a shame that you treat people this way; this is a forum I would otherwise have loved to join but due to the nature of some of your members I have no interest.  Shame on you!

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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2009, 01:05:21 PM »
Lets see Cathy..you explained yourself bad and your sister on facebook explained the story well ,saying that Prince Alexander (Your relative) was  DISTANT relative of Nicholas II and considering him as a cousin. Being "Considered" and being a cousin are two different things.

Quote of your sister clear post on facebook

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My name is Christine Romanoff Morris. My greatgrandfather was Prince Alexsander Nicholas. He was also a Balashov and Obolensky (spelling). I am sisters with Catherine Romanoff and she too is looking for information on my great-grandfather. I was interested in finding people who could possibly be related to me or info regarding my great-grandfather. We are distant relations to Nicholas II but my great-grandfather knew him well and they were considered cousins. He was a member of the Russian mission in NYC during the time of the revolution and spent time in North Carolina, doing what I do not known. He was an engineer and helped to develop the NYC subway. He died young and left a legacy that I am desperately trying to search for. I would be so happy to get in contact with other family members, even if they do not have any information".

Your message sent by mail chain over facebook

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Hello my name is Cathy Romanoff and I am a direct descendent of Czar Nicholas Romanov-I am looking for information regarding my great grandfather. His name was Alexsander Nicholas Romanoff. He came to NYC per the Czars request to purchase arms. He was an architect/engineer who worked for the Russian Mission in NY. He was also an actor-did some work out in california and married my great grandmother-last name of Schuchuck(sp?). they were married in NY and had one son, my grandfather, Nicholas Alexander Romanoff. My great grandfather died when grandpa was 12 of TB. My grandfather had 2 children-Nicholas Alexander Romanoff and Lynn Romanoff- I am looking for any information about my great grandfather, if this should ring a bell with anyone, you can contact me on facebook-Cathy Romanoff or my email crlagrua@gmail.com. thanks!


See? two different stories. Being "Direct" relative is quiiite different that being a "Distant" relative. Your sister gave us much more clear and believable information and i hope that with it, someone can help you to find more info about your ancestry.


Why just cant accept that you explained yourself bad?. That s why people didnt believe you.


If you were explained your story as your sister did, thew things would be very different.

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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2009, 01:32:57 PM »
Cathy didn't explain herself badly...she just offered the information differently then me.  But as I said Alexander Pavlovich (sp) and Douglas have ridiculed those claimants and it is so insulting.  Why the skepticism?  There are so many Romanoff descendants and although we are not a DIRECT descentdant of the last Tsar...obviously, we are of Nicholas I.  What's the problem?

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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2009, 04:03:27 PM »
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Hello my name is Cathy Romanoff and I am a direct descendent of Czar Nicholas Romanov

There you said something veery different, leaving us place to speculate.

Look...

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Hello my name is Cathy Romanoff and I am a direct descendent of Czar Nicholas Romanov I

Thats sound quiiiiiite different.

Look....if you re looking for serious help, here we got a forum called "Research Russian Root". Post exactlywhat your sister Christine posted (Dont forget about the "I" after Nicholas) and you will find help. That easy.

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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2009, 04:44:42 PM »
I am NOT Cathy, I am her sister Christine using her log-in password.  My reason for my posts was just to give my opinion of some of the members of your forum and their behaviour towards my sister.  I am here to defend her.  We have our own research going on with another Russian forum but thank you you all the same

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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2009, 05:36:50 PM »
So you really are decendants of Nicholas I?  Can I long-distance hug you?  I've always wanted to meet a Romanov (that doesn't prentend they're Anastasia or something).  

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Re: Facebook claimant...
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2009, 05:59:49 PM »
Your message was so sweet.  Thank you.  Yes, we are descendants of Nicholas I.  My greatgrandfather was a diplomat in New York City at the time of the Revolution.  He was also a Balashov and Obolensky.  He died VERY young...early 40's and I know little about him except for some photos, etc.  We tried gathering infor on this forum but it seems they are very skeptical of Romanoff/ov claimants.  My family stayed in America and we are proud Americans.  I just wish I knew more about my great-grandfather.  His name was Alexsander Nicholas Romanoff.